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kpaternoster
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Initially Posted - 03/11/2006 :  20:05:53  Show Profile  Visit kpaternoster's Homepage
Hi all,

I am a new Catalina 25 owner, after having had a Cat 22 over the previous year. I LOVE THE BOAT!

Anyway - the icebox drain appears to be clogged, and I was wondering if any of you can give me any suggestions on how to unclog it. I love the built-in icebox (one more big improvement over my old Cat 22), but I can't have that standing water stay in there. Any help is VERY appreciated.

Thanks,

kim

Kimberly Paternoster
1989 C25 #5811 "Tipsy Gypsy"
Lake Travis (Austin), TX

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 03/11/2006 :  22:24:25  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
You know there are 2 gate valves under the stove area that must be open?

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IndyJim
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Response Posted - 03/11/2006 :  23:31:29  Show Profile
Also, if you have both valves open and it's still clogged, try a flimsy coat hanger. Works for me when mine gets clogged.

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ct95949
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Response Posted - 03/12/2006 :  00:10:32  Show Profile
I keep a small plunger handy that I only use for the galley sink and icebox-those small lines are always getting clogged but they flush out pretty easy.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 03/12/2006 :  08:14:11  Show Profile
Good morning Kimberly,

You may find the answer to your question in the Manuals & Brochures section page 23. In the upper left hand side of this page is a pale blue section with several categories of interest. Click on Manuals and Brochures and then go to page 23 for your answer. I kinda like the suggestion of running the sink drain tube into a gallon jug, haven't done so, just like the idea.

Welcome to the group.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue, N.Y.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/12/2006 :  09:31:00  Show Profile
Welcome to the fleet and the forum, Kim!

Check to make sure the drain hoses aren't kinked.

When my drains at home get clogged, I get my garden hose and insert the nozzle into the drain. I then wrap a rag around the nozzle and drain to seal it, then blast the clog away.

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kpaternoster
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Response Posted - 03/12/2006 :  11:16:16  Show Profile  Visit kpaternoster's Homepage
Thank you ALL for your wonderful ideas. I did not know about the valves under the stove - I will look into those when I go out there today. I'll also check out the manual.

A friend that has a Cat 34 emailed me this morning saying that he uses a small clear plastic tube to clear the hose. This is probably my best bet since I don't have access to a garden hose/water at the dock.

I'll let you know what I did later today (I'm sure I can get it unclogged today).

Thanks for the welcome too. I LOVE my boat... much better and more fun than my 22 was (at least I think so). I read the topic about the 25 being the "black sheep of the family", and I'm thinking that might be way it was so appealing to me! The guy I bought it from kept every manual, reg card, original owner's documents, so not only is the boat in pristine shape, but it's damned near new if you include all the manuals. Now, if I could do something about those ugly plaid cushion covers... :)

kim

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/12/2006 :  16:38:08  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Aside from doing it yourself, your cheapest cushion alternative is to get a new set from Catalina Direct of Catalina yachts. Most reupholsterers she sailors coming a mile a way....I know our guy did. We paid so much to recover the 1978 original foam that we actually could have bought new from cushion and all from elsewhere

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/12/2006 :  17:40:02  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Uh Oh, Hey Gloss another Fleet 89 member.
Welcome Kim, learn to post pictures so we can see your ship.

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kpaternoster
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Response Posted - 03/12/2006 :  18:07:49  Show Profile  Visit kpaternoster's Homepage
I'll have to get some pictures of her first. Just got her about a week ago, and still moving my stuff in. But I promise, as soon as I have some pictures, I will post them!

So yeah - ummm - it was the valve that was off under the stove that did it. Not sure why the valve was off, since the guy that I bought it from sailed her often. Guess he never used the cooler. There is a kink in the hose from the icebox, but I think that just slows down the draining - doesn't stop it.

My mom is coming to visit me in a couple of weeks, and she's an expert seamstress. I'm going to try to talk her into making me new cushion covers for the cost of the fabric (you know how moms are). So we'll see - I'm thinking dark blue or red. I'd love to go with a hibiscus fabric, but I don't think that would resell very well.

Thanks again to everyone, and I look forward to making new friends on here!

kim

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Todd Frye
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Response Posted - 03/13/2006 :  17:50:03  Show Profile
My Catalina 25 swing keel has a black plastic, one-way valve, between the ice box and the through-hull fitting. After replacing all my hoses because they looked pretty nasty... I still had poor drainage. So I removed the one-way valve and discovered all sorts of sediment had clogged the small orifices in this valve. This was a very simple disassemble, clean (with water) and reinstall. Drained fine after that. Make sure all your hoses are double clamped at the through hulls. While you're in there, might as well add insulation to the outside of the icebox. Fair winds. Todd Frye

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 03/13/2006 :  18:54:44  Show Profile
Kim, you may find, as have many of us here, that the "icebox" doesn't work very well for its stated purpose. It's poorly insulated, and works much better as a storage container than as a cooler. Years ago I plugged the drain in mine, put pots and pans in it for storage, and used a portable cooler for keeping things cold. The C25 really is a great boat, but a couple of things on it are . . . not so great . . . the "icebox" being one of them.

What a great last name, by the way . . . we make use of you every Sunday morning here!

Brooke

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kpaternoster
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Response Posted - 03/13/2006 :  19:02:58  Show Profile  Visit kpaternoster's Homepage
Brooke -

Thanks for the note. You must live in Canada or Europe to be using the Paternoster every Sunday!

I'm going to continue to use my icebox for as long as I can. I really like having that on-board so I don't have to carry my cooler down there. We'll see I guess.

kim

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/13/2006 :  20:17:10  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Kim, I sail in southern Kansas, While not Texas, it gets pretty hot here. Refrigeration is a big deal to me. The Ice box does its intended purpose so poorly that it is a burden to use it. Not only is it poorly insulated but it is deep and a stretch to get to. My tea pot, bottled jug of water and paper plates and such live down there. I put a refrigerator in my v-berth. If you have a permanent berth and 120 volt shore power then I suggest you consider doing it too. What type of sailing do you do? If you overnight the 120 volt appliances become very important. The 25 is a lot nicer to stay over on than a 22, and it is big enough that serious creature comforts can be considered.

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StSimon
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Response Posted - 03/14/2006 :  01:01:29  Show Profile
Mine was clogged too. I used compressed air and blew out the gunk. Now it drains fine. I use a Pusser's Rum cork (as I recall) when I want to put ice in but normally I just use a portable cooler.

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 03/14/2006 :  15:30:50  Show Profile
Kim, Protestants call the Paternoster "The Lord's Prayer." And it's pretty common in mainline churches.

Brooke

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Frank Hopper
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kpaternoster
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Response Posted - 03/15/2006 :  01:48:27  Show Profile  Visit kpaternoster's Homepage
Brooke -

I knew what the Paternoster was, but was not aware that it was a common term used here in the United States. I attended Catholic Mass in New England for a few years, and never heard it used there. First time I ever heard it (out of context of my last name) was in England in an Anglican church. Interesting the things you learn on a Cat 25 forum. Thanks for letting me know!

kim

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atgep
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Response Posted - 03/15/2006 :  06:20:02  Show Profile
I drilled a couple of 3/4 inch holes in the bottom. Now the icebox stays dry for dry storage, and the Igloo cooler keeps things cool.

Tom.

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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 03/15/2006 :  16:15:53  Show Profile
Kim, We take a piece of Dri-Dek that you can buy at West Marine and Lay it on the bottom of the cooler and another piece in the anchor Locker to keep from the hole being plugged but we mostly use the cooler as a dry snack storage area. , Best wishes/Fair winds on your boat,,,

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