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GregGrimes
Deckhand

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USA
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Initially Posted - 03/18/2006 :  10:02:50  Show Profile
Due to circumstances beyond my control, I have had to put my boat up for sale. This morning I received an "offer" from someone in the UK (see below). Everything about it seems odd. Alarms are going off in my head.

Has anyone else seen this before? Personally, I'll pass.

Thanks!

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Hello,
I am a boat dealer based in the Denistoun Glasgow U K.I buy and refurbish used
boat,equipment and it related to be resold to my large client in Asia and the middle
east.etc.I am interested in buying your advert placement.I need your final asking
price.As my shipper would handle the shipping and pickup from it location after
payment had been made.Also indicate if you would accept a certified cashiers cheque
or money order from a U.S bank for payment.If ok,hear from u soonest.

Best Regards
<name removed>
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Bama Breeze (aka Moondance)
84 SR/FK 4309
Lake Guntersville Sailing Club
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danandlu
Navigator

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USA
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Response Posted - 03/18/2006 :  10:12:53  Show Profile  Visit danandlu's Homepage
Here's the link to where this subject was recently discussed.

[url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8524&SearchTerms=Scam"]Scams[/url]
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John V.
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Response Posted - 03/19/2006 :  15:27:49  Show Profile  Visit John V.'s Homepage
One look at the english language usage will tell you to watch out.
as the link above attests you get a phony check or some other thing it all ends up cleaning out your checking acount.
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tinob
Master Marine Consultant

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Response Posted - 03/20/2006 :  09:00:38  Show Profile
Greg, your suspicions are well taken. What businessman would consider buying a USA boat, probably at market high price, and pay to ship it to Europe to be restored and then resold?

Just the shipping would likely exceed the value of the boat.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue,N.Y.
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djn
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Response Posted - 03/20/2006 :  12:08:20  Show Profile
I just got the same note from a guy in Irland for the Panhead I have listed. If there are not in the U.S., I don't deal with them.
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/20/2006 :  13:57:30  Show Profile
A couple of weeks ago I bid on a spinnaker on Ebay, but was outbid by someone. The next morning I got an e-mail, supposedly through Ebay on a screen that looked just like Ebay's, saying the buyer reneged, and telling me I could buy it at my last bid. The "seller" said he was "vacationing" in London, and I should wire the money to him by Western Union. I checked with Ebay and they said it was a fraud.

This was the first time I ever bid on anything on Ebay, and I'm beginning to suspect that anytime you bid on any item with a value in the hundreds of dollars, you can almost expect someone in a foreign country to contact you and try to con you. My record is one for one. IMHO, if a foreigner wants to do business with you over the net, you can assume it's a fraud. It's always easier to do business locally than overseas.
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tinob
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Response Posted - 03/20/2006 :  14:30:31  Show Profile
You're right Steve, it's sometimes difficult dealing with local shops even, much less someone who's thousands of miles away. I can't imagine that I'd be so intent on selling something that I'd take such a chance.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue, N.Y.
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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 03/20/2006 :  23:28:20  Show Profile  Visit Ericson33's Homepage
Tell them that you will do the deal, have them send you the check, and ship them the Catalina 25 model, I have seen this before, and I have seen some great jokes played on these people, thinking we are all stupid....
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/21/2006 :  07:13:44  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Tell them that you will do the deal, have them send you the check, and ship them the Catalina 25 model, I have seen this before, and I have seen some great jokes played on these people, thinking we are all stupid....<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> That's asking for trouble. If you make it a personal thing with these people, they might make you their hobby, using their creativity to think of ways to harass and annoy you, such as sending you emails laced with viruses, or slandering your good name and reputation all over the internet. Because they operate in a foreign country, there's not much you can do to them, but there's still a lot that they can do to you, if you give them a good reason.
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djn
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Response Posted - 03/21/2006 :  11:29:34  Show Profile
They will also now have your adress. Cheers.
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