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end for end swop for keel cable?

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premodco
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Initially Posted - 03/24/2006 : 19:11:54

Has anyone ever thought of this? switching the keel cable end for end and having a swedge put on the fresh end? I am getting ready to replace the swing keel cable, 2nd time in 11 seasons and it is showing wear same place as last time, about 18" from the keel...which makes sense. The rest of the cable looks like new.

adam starr

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 03/24/2006 : 19:19:32

A good portion of the cost of the keel cable is the fitting and the swedging, the cable itself is pretty cheap.

I don't think you'll save enough money to make reusing the cable all that worthwhile. IMHO: Not worth the risk.

What I have thought about is using a Norseman or Sta-lok fitting rather than a swaged end.

Most keel cable failures I've heard about occur right at the edge of the fitting... my suspicion is slight over-swedging causes surface cracks in the cable strands followed by corrosion.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/24/2006 : 19:34:33

entire setup is about 70 bucks. Its not worth the PITA to swap everything end for end. buy a cable and a ball and your done.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/24/2006 : 22:03:43

bad idea, spend the money.

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 03/24/2006 : 22:33:36

I replace my swing keel cable every time I haulout for bottom paint. It's cheap insurance.

-- Leon Sisson

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/25/2006 : 05:59:05

How often do you do that Leon? -

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 03/25/2006 : 08:31:25

You're replacing for the second time in 11 seasons and worrying about saving money by swapping the cable end for end? Good heavens, count your blessings and buy a new cable. I replace mine every 2 - 3 years (salt water).

I don't think using a Sta-lock or Norseman fitting is a great idea -- a swaged fitting looks to me more impervious to water intrusion. Also, the reversed end of the cable that's been corroding in water is what you're attaching to the winch. I agree with Leon -- a new cable is cheap insurance.

Brooke

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 03/25/2006 : 08:43:51

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> How often do you do that [<i>haulout, replace cable</i>] Leon?
--Duane W<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">About every 2-3 years in saltwater, same as Brooke W.

-- Leon Sisson

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 03/25/2006 : 09:49:07

>"a swaged fitting looks to me more impervious to water intrusion."

You can fill the interior of the removable fittings with marine sealant.

I just purchased a replacement cable (boat is due for haulout/bottom paint) so I won't be trying a replacable fitting this time around.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 : 13:20:51

Well Adam, now that you've had time to think about it, what do you think?

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue, N.Y.

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premodco
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 : 16:23:42

After I pulled the cable, I discounted the idea completely. First, it looked alot older in the sunlight and off the winch, and the last foot or so on the winch looked alittle rough. I do not know what it would cost to have it swedged, but even if I could get it swedged for free, I'd replace it.
Although I am on a "salt" water bay, it is about 40 miles unstream from the ocean and I do not think we suffer from the same salt corrosion problems as other members reported. We just do not have the corrosion problems with the keel pins, keel cables and standing rigging I read so much about on this board.

I appreciate everyones comments

I never thou.I guess from the

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