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PZell
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Response Posted - 03/29/2006 :  15:27:55  Show Profile
Nobody has mentioned summer air vs winter air. What we call heavier air in the winter. The air has greater density and the wind speed can be lower to get the same effect as that wind speed in summer. Nice discussion, I think everybody agrees it gets a bit dicy somewhere around 30.
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jwilliams
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Response Posted - 03/31/2006 :  18:25:57  Show Profile
Hey Paul,

Tell'em about the time we went out to watch the Tall Ships on the Bay and we later found out it was blowing 35 gusting 45. The Tall Ships were flying double reefed topsls on the foremast and still going too fast to parade past the SF waterfront.

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bbriner
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Response Posted - 03/31/2006 :  18:39:18  Show Profile
I don't know about that Paul.. when I sailed with you I think it was blowing 20+ and gusting about 30 and you had your 150 up!! You didn't seem concerned at all :)
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PZell
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Response Posted - 04/02/2006 :  08:59:34  Show Profile
Hey bill,
That was a 125 which I usually fly racing. Next one down is a 100% which I was flying that day Jim, you and I met over by TI and that makes me just a little too slow. Gotta get a 110 or 115. Wud like to have them make one for me over at Leading Edge, Joe did a really good job on my main. Hoo boy on that tall ship day I got bounced around in the cockpit reefing in the chop over by Alcatraz and banged my shin pretty good. Luckily some ice from the cooler kept it from swelling. I always wear knee pads, but that day I needed goalie pads.
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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 04/02/2006 :  09:56:16  Show Profile
8 to 10 mph of wind is just about right for my WK/TR, more than that just makes the ride rougher, puts more strain on the boat and on me, and the boat doesn't go any faster. I can't afford to risk breaking something expensive like the mast or tearing a sail up. I'd say 20mph is my limit; if it was windier than that upon arrival, I'd stay in, if it got windier than that while out, I'd head in and call it a day. Several years back, there was a Camellia Cup regatta (Folsom Lake Yacht Club's biggest event of the year), where it was blowing in the low 40's and three boats were dismasted with one capsized if I remember correctly. As someone pointed out in one of the other postings in this thread, a mast replacement on a C-25 size boat is at least $1000, and that's just the parts price for the bare extrusion. A Balboa 26, on it's trailer crossing the launch ramp parking lot here at Folsom Lake, got it's forestay tangled in a tree branch. The forestay snapped, the mast got bent in half, the boom was broken, and the final repair bill came to almost $7000 for all the parts and labor. The next time you are out sailing in big air, that's saomething to keep in mind - the cost to replace a dismasted rig might be more than your whole boat is worth if it's an older model.
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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 04/02/2006 :  10:09:45  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by lcharlot</i>
<br />8 to 10 mph of wind is just about right for my WK/TR, more than that just makes the ride rougher, puts more strain on the boat and on me, and the boat doesn't go any faster. I can't afford to risk breaking something expensive like the mast or tearing a sail up. I'd say 20mph is my limit; if it was windier than that upon arrival, I'd stay in, if it got windier than that while out, I'd head in and call it a day. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

That pretty much says it for me as well.
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