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gnorgan
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Initially Posted - 05/24/2002 : 01:40:28

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Okay, folks, is this possible?
I sailed after work this evening in 15 - 20 mph winds on a local lake, Lake Perris, in southern California (75-85degrees) from 4:30 until just after 7pm (sunset rule on the lake). Faaaantastic!!!!
My 1989 wing was reefed and the 150 jennie was partly rolled in and I was still making 5.5 to 7.5 (mostly around 6.5-7.0)mph!! And I thought hull speed was 6.6. Tall rigs reefing early...I hadn't actually tried that until I rigged my 1st reef system 3 weeks ago. Now I don't dump wind and keep the boat driving relatively flat. What a difference. I thought maybe my recent impeller blade replacement somehow was giving me false readings until I cranked up the Garmin 12XL GPS. It told me I was real close to accurate. Sometimes the speed meter said I was pushing 8.0 off the wind. LOTS OF FUN, I can tell you, no matter what. Flat, freshwater lake, good steady wind with gusts close to 25 make for a great ride!!!!
So if 8mph then is 9 or 10 possible?
Gary (must be in sailing heaven)

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Rick Heaverly 86 C25 5382
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Response Posted - 05/24/2002 : 06:06:21

copy cat

Rick Heaverly
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sier10
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Response Posted - 05/24/2002 : 09:05:54

If you are talking a hull speed of 6.6 in knots, if you do the math, it is 7.8 mph.

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Steve
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Response Posted - 05/24/2002 : 15:39:49

Rick,

He's obviously trying to get his post count up again. Since Dave appears to have started over, he's going after Duane. We already have a bet to settle this on the water. Since I hit 40 knots in my Sunfish last night I think I can take him.

Steve
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 05/24/2002 : 20:04:12

Steve - I'm FOFLMDFHO ! 40 knots - priceless!!
Derek

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/24/2002 : 21:12:16

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Since Dave appears to have started over, he's going after Duane.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>
Go for it, guys... I've abdicated the crown.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 05/25/2002 : 00:21:07

Steve was the boat on a trailer?

Doug&Ruth
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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 05/25/2002 : 01:28:28

...if the 40 knots (I rechecked the specs. The one post by "newbie" - welcome math guy - is correct. I forgot that our boats' hull speed is 6.6 NOTs and knot in mph. Thanks for the correction. I feel better) on a Sunfish is indeed on a trailer, maybe we should load the boats on the trailers and see how much pulling power or speed our vehicles have?
Anyway, it is still a great ride when the boat is moving at max speed on flat water.
Gary

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 05/25/2002 : 01:39:56

Steve, just noticed you also have a tall/wing as I do. Mine is an 89 so our two boats would be exactly the same, wouldn't you agree? I sure would like to get a bunch of tall/wings together to race against sometimes or just to get out and compare boatspeed, etc.
I haven't met anyone around here (SoCal) with a boat like ours. I'm luck to actually even meet anyone who owns a C25. There is one old C25 down the dock but haven't run into the owner yet. I have a met a C22 owner about 8 slips away...good people. My previous was an 85 C22 and did lots of racing with it. I am missing the racing aspect of sailing right now.
I can't make the national race due to distance and my teenagers and wife would never put up with a long trip "just to race". It would probably take at least a week to get there and week back. I will wait until the next west coast big race.
I ramble.....

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Steve
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Response Posted - 05/27/2002 : 10:06:44

Gary, mine is a 87 Tall Rig wing keel so it should be very similar to yours. I'd love to get together and race you but the only problem is that we are about 1500 miles apart and I don't have a trailer. How about we meet halfway, say the Galapago's Island's? Give me a little extra time because I've heard it's tough getting through the Panama Canel these days. I don't think I would want to make a western passage around Cape Horn in a Catalina 25.

Actually, I'm not much of a racer anyway. Getting from point A to point B without using a motor, and maybe having a cold beer in the process, has always been enough for me.

Anyway, it felt like 40 knots ...

Steve

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tinob
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Response Posted - 05/27/2002 : 15:21:35

Hey Steve,

That last paragraph of yours sounds like a page out of my "things to do manual" Way to go!

Val

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Response Posted - 05/28/2002 : 11:44:33

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Since Dave appears to have started over, he's going after Duane.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Don't worry, It was a holiday weekend...Douglas will pass me up again shortly

Gary, your numbers sound reasonable. The 8 off the wind can happen very easily with a good push from a wave.

Tell me more about the "Sunset Rule" ????

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 05/29/2002 : 01:01:15

Duane, the "Sunset Rule" means you get off the lake and into the slip when the sun sets or they come out and get you....<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>
Gary
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Response Posted - 05/29/2002 : 08:04:07

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Duane, the "Sunset Rule" means you get off the lake and into the slip when the sun sets or they come out and get you....<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>
Gary
1989 C25 Tall/Wing on Perris Lake, CA

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Kind of puts a damper on a nice night sail looking at the stars.....Is there any reasoning behind it?

Duane Wolff
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 05/29/2002 : 11:01:02

Haven't they noticed that sailboats have running lights...??
Derek

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 05/30/2002 : 01:08:00

Probably be worth my time to ask about the reasoning and then point out the running lights idea. With the full moon the other night, one could have sailed just about all night. The wind was perfect, the lake flat, and the moon provided the "lights" to see by. What a shame. Time to take some action.....

C25 tall/wing
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Response Posted - 05/30/2002 : 21:36:32

Gary: Maybe you should point out to them that there's a whole set of conventions for the meaning of red, green, and white lights, and rules of the road for situations where one set of lights encounters another. There are also some guidelines on how fast a boat should be moving after dusk, and sailboats rarely exceed them. Of course, the bigger issue is whether anyone else on the lake knows the conventions... You could post them in the local bar. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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