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zeil
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Initially Posted - 04/05/2006 : 16:28:49

Second step extension ideal for galley duties, guests, love seat, read a book/chart, fix your fishing gear, as well as a comfortable place to observe the world around you.

Step extension in fixed, no nuisance stored position

Step extension detailed view in stored position

Step extention view from the back

From the second step extension you will be in a sitting position for most galley duties etc.

Completed the project just now in response to last season's sore butts and to previous questions on this forum. Scraps of teak were used for the project. Project cost including hardware comes to about the price for a good dinner.

Am presently working on a design for clip-on arm rests and a custom fitted porta potty (just kidding)

Henk & Johanna
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Edited by - zeil on 04/05/2006 19:11:35

raulpou
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Response Posted - 04/05/2006 : 16:57:26

Looks great!!!

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Keith D.
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Response Posted - 04/05/2006 : 19:29:41

I like it! Great idea! Thanks for the post

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Response Posted - 04/05/2006 : 20:17:07

Beautiful, how are you locking the support leg in the down position? You could drill even one small hole through the bottom of the support, into the bottom step and simply drop a long clevis in it for security.

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Waterboy
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Response Posted - 04/05/2006 : 21:50:28

Very pretty, but mostly its a place to sit at the nav station/galley. My butt's just to big for those stock steps.

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 04/05/2006 : 22:41:05

Clever idea, Henk! And it looks like excellent workmanship as well!

-- Leon Sisson

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zeil
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Response Posted - 04/05/2006 : 23:49:23

Thank you for your kind comments guys...
This fun project was triggered by a previous "sore but." thread posted just a few days ago in the Catalina 250 specific forum. Thank you... it helped me finding one of perhaps many solutions

Couple of comments/suggestions to be added
1) It would be simple to replace the teak support frame/legs by 5/8 SS tubing if you have a way of bending the SS.
2) Perhaps use will determine it necessary to provide a positive stop to the bottom of the support legs to the lowest step (top of WB valve housing) to prevent accidental shifting. At this time I feel that it is not required since the support frame is hinged from the back and tends to hinge/lock in a forward position. Since the SS piano hinge solidly locks the seat in position no movement forward or sideways is noticed even by aplying all weight on the very edge of the seat.
3) A Velcro strap located on the companion way step runner be added to attach/lock the support legs in an upward position. ( will provide picture)
4) A very thin felt strip is added to the bottom of the leg frame to prevent wood to wood contact and possible sliding backwards. (Picture included)

If required I gladly will provide construction measurements and "as built" comments to the forum

(By the way could this seat arrangement be used as the seat for a porta potty?) (just kidding)

Please note the glued on felt strip on the bottemof the leg frame preventing wood to wood contact and slipping. If this does not work we'll at the clevis pin idea submitted by fhopper... thank you!!
Henk

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Response Posted - 04/06/2006 : 07:23:12

Great respone to my Sore But... post.
I like your solution and might even extend it.

To cure any worry about the leg moving, I would drill a slight indent in the lower step cover and put a piece of dowel in the underside of the leg (only work if there is enough movement upwards of the 'seat' when it is in the 'in use' position.

Very nice work.

Can you provide the dimensions of the 'seating area' it provides, no large buns here, just wondered. (And would add a comfy cushion to protect the seat.)

Paul

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zeil
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Response Posted - 04/08/2006 : 01:06:48

Paul: Thank you for having raised the question regarding the seat extension development.

I'm happy the “fun” project turned out well and should make living below, having visitors, doing chores, enjoying a place to sit while reading a book, fixing tackle and watching the world around you etc.

Your suggestion of adding a small and short dowel is excellent. However, I noticed that the extended seat and leg frame does not move at all and am planning to try it out this season without drilling holes at this time. Perhaps down the road someone will dream up changes and improvements and I would regret at that time having drilled holes at all.

As per your request for dimensions you may wish to measure, in your boat, the distance from the second step to the top of the tank valve cover. I would suspect that in each boat this may be slightly different. The width of my seat extension is 6 and almost 7/8” with the leading edge just shaving/touching the tank valve step in closed/hanging down position. This, in my opinion, is desirable since it will prevent the seat from swinging free in heavy weather conditions.

Please note: If I had to start the project from scratch again, I would measure, as Arlyn correctly points out, the spacing between all steps. Changes are, depending on your boat, that this will allow you to add an approx. 1” (teak of course) spacer strip between the second step and the SS mounting bracket effectively raising your step by one inch . This will increase the step extension 1 inch longer since the overall measurement is dependant on the vertical distance between the tank valve step and the second step. You possibly will be able to extend your step by as much as a grant 8” in width.

Hey Paul... this is a wife pleaser project and win/win for everybody... you get to work on the boat with her blessing as long as you want and... you don’t need to buy her flowers for a whole long time to come!! Guaranteed!!! Henk

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Response Posted - 04/08/2006 : 07:16:51

thanks for the extra info Henk.
What do you figure the cost... 2 Dozen roses on Valentines day

Paul

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zeil
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Response Posted - 04/09/2006 : 00:19:30

Let's face it... she's worth it
Henk

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