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Lbstrlvr1
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Initially Posted - 04/10/2006 : 06:24:18

How does one get a C25 that is on jackstands onto a trailer? The boat is at a private residence.

If a C25 is on jackstands, can it be raised up using the jackstands and a trailer placed underneath. Everyone seems to place a lot of emphasis on keeping the boat on its keel. Can the weight be placed on just the hull?

Anyone ever do it? If not what is the best way?

Thanks in advance

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 06:52:12

A travel lift would be the best way. Weight can definitely be placed just on the hull, but the jack stands should be positioned on the bulkheads.

What type of keel to you have?

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Lbstrlvr1
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 07:48:15

It is a wing keel.
I'm a newbie. What is a travel lift?

Thanks, Michele

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 08:12:23

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lbstrlvr1
 What is a travel lift?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

It is a machine used to launch, haul, and move boats.

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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 08:19:30

Find a Cat25 owner close by with the Forum. Ask how the boat was put there and make a list: type of trailer, lifting equipment available, tow vehicle and get help.

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Lbstrlvr1
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 08:42:34

I don't think a travel lift would fit in the yard. This is a private residence.

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Lbstrlvr1
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 08:48:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sweetcraft
 Find a Cat25 owner close by with the Forum. Ask how the boat was put there and make a list: type of trailer, lifting equipment available, tow vehicle and get help.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

But I'm asking you guys

sniffle

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 08:54:13

Hire a crane with two lifting straps. they're listed in my phone book under "Riggers & Erectors." Have the trailer and cradle ready when they get there, so all they have to do is lift it on and leave.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 09:39:47

What steve said above. I said ideally a travel lift, but it isn't going to happen in the back yard. How they got it there on jack stands is the answer to your how to get it out question.

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Lbstrlvr1
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 10:37:04

I see what everyone is recommending. I guess lifting the boat using the jackstands is not the prefered method. That is what I was hoping to do. Lift the boat, back a trailer under it. Then lower the boat onto the trailer.

We have a quote to splash it. A few hundred dollars. Seemed like wasted money if all we were going to do was motor to the closest boat ramp and pull it out.

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MattL
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 14:37:16

OK, I'll ask. How did the boat get on the jack stands at a private residence in the first place. If you find that answer, you will probably get the answer to the posted question.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 14:47:28

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lbstrlvr1
 How does one get a C25 that is on jackstands onto a trailer? The boat is at a private residence.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

When I bought my boat, it too was in someone's backyard sitting not on stands, but in a cradle. Since I didn't have a trailer, a capable tow vehicle, and the time, I simply contracted a marine transport company to move the boat fifty miles to my marina. It cost $450.00 for me to do this, but this cost was taken off the purchase price of the boat.

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Happy D
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 18:14:05

What you are looking for is a hydraulic trailer. It lifts the boat up off the jackstands and transports it to the marina. From there, they can lift it with the travel lift and put it on your trailer or they can launch it in the water and you can load it on your trailer from there, after the sailing season of course. Here is glassando being moved by a hydraulic trailer. Most all marinas have a hydraulic trailer.
http://www.triton381.com/projects/restoration/hauloutandtransport.html

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Gene DeMambro
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 19:47:39

When I bought my boat (89 SR/WK), it was on stands in a yard. The boat hauler (recommended by the PO) towed it from Cape Cod to my house (a bit more than an hour) and plopped it in my side driveway (PO of the house had boats, and has a flat driveway put in just for the purpose). The trailer he used was a hydraulic trailer that had removable cross pieces. When removed, there was nothing on the trailer that would knock over a boat stand. He set the stands under the boat, blocked the keel then lowered the bunks. He then removed the cross supports from the trailer then pulled away. Boat has been sitting very stable ever since. Never got a chance to splash last year...

Anyway, my plan this year is to hire someone with a hydrualic trailer this year to launch, then take can of launching and retrieving the rest of the time myself, as I'm in the market for a trailer.

Cheers,
Gene

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 20:05:22

If somebody will splash it for $450... I don't think you can hire a crane to do it for much less than that. Git' er done and start enjoying the boat.

"can it be raised up using the jackstands and a trailer placed underneath. "

At some point in the process the trailer and jack-stands usually need to occupy the same space.

"Can the weight be placed on just the hull?"

When the boat is floating the keel is hanging. This doesn't hurt the boat as the hull is 'fully supported' by the water which distributes the load.

The boat can be lifted free as long as the load is distributed over a good area of the hull via lifting pads, straps etc. (See the photo of the boat riding in the travel-lift).

You don't want to store it for extended periods of time with the keel unsupported as it puts extra load on the jack pads and stresses the hull.

It is also espeically critical when trailering to have most of the keel weight supported as the boat gets shock loading from bumps in the road.

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