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Tom Potter
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Initially Posted - 04/22/2006 : 17:48:07

Spent the day removing my 16st winches off the cabin top and mounting them on the coamings. I cleaned up the area where the 16s were at and filled in the 5 holes with white Marine Tex.

I ordered 2 Lewmar - Ocean Standard Winch - 6C Single Speed Chrome winches from [url="http://mauriprosailing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=SFNT&Store_Code=MPS&Affiliate=C25"]Mauri Pro Sailing[/url] they had the cheapest Lewmar #6C's I could find. ($117ea) I'm going to mount them on the cabin top where the 16's were at.

Contacted Beverly at [url="http://webpages.charter.net/potterhouse/my%20web/page11.html"]One Stop Sail Shop[/url] to make me a set of winch covers for the new 6's. She works out her house making all kinds of sunbrella stuff for sailboats.

Need to find someway to route the jib sheets back to the 16s on the coamings. I've seen some people use little pulley's I wonder if stanchion fairleads would work?

1997 250 TR WK (sold)
1984 O'Day 28 (sold)
1979 SISU 22
Bath, NC.

Edited by - Tom Potter on 04/22/2006 17:50:40

Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 04/23/2006 : 07:56:54

Tom... so far I've seen two methods. Bryan Beamer used two blocks (one on each leg of the midship stanchion) and I used a single block and a rub strake. Either method will work.

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 04/23/2006 : 10:25:15

I don't understand the necessity of doubling up the winches. Instead of coaming winches, I installed two large cam cleats just above the coaming cubby holes for use in single handing at a fraction of the cost of winches. They work fine with my 110, but maybe Tom's jib is larger. Tom...?

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 04/23/2006 : 20:46:26

Arlyn,
After moving the winches to the coaming, I played around with how to run the jib sheets. I think I have idea...

Took a couple pictures of the jib sheets with the cell phone today while sailing around. I'm thinking of putting a stanchion fairlead on the inside of the upper stanchion to keep the jib sheet off the cabin top and run the jib sheet on the outside of the lower stanchion. The angle of the lower stanchion keeps the jib sheet in line with the winch. Can you think of any ill effects of the sheets rubbing against the lower stanchion? Take a look at these great cell phone pictures

and you can see what I'm talking about.

This one shows a lovely foot... opps I mean how the angle of the lower stanchion keeps the jib sheet in line with the winch.

This one shows the upper stanchion, I want to add a fairlead on the stanchion about 2-3 inches up off the cabin top, this should keep the jib sheet high enough to keep it from rubbing the cabin top.

Frank, I do have a tall rig and the jib is a little bigger. I like to be able to winch the jib in stronger winds.

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 04/23/2006 : 20:51:33

That explains it! Is your jib a 110 or...?

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 04/23/2006 : 21:06:55

It's a 110, but its 3 feet longer(32' I )than the standard rig.

Edited by - Tom Potter on 04/23/2006 21:07:15

Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 04/24/2006 : 17:57:05

Tom... looks like your scheme would work. I don't think the sheet rubbing on the stanchion is any shake. Important thing is sheeting angle is fair.

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atgep
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Response Posted - 04/25/2006 : 00:42:21

Tom, You have pretty feet. What color are those nails??????

Tom.

Ps, I will be missing you all at Beer. Give a big HI to Kevin.

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welshoff
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Response Posted - 04/25/2006 : 10:01:30

Tom,
My jib sheets go through a stantion block and back to the winch. The coaming winches are mounted on an angled wood base. My lines run fair with no issues. The only slight inconvenience is you have to watch your step if using the coaming as a step to move up to the cabin top, as the line runs over the top of the coaming.

I have a 14st on the starboard cabin top for main halyard and reefing. No winch on the port side cabin top - the only line running there currently is the jib haylard. When I need to winch it, I just run the line back to the winch on the port coaming .

Here are a couple pictures.

I found another picture of the block - you can see it best on the lazy sheet.

Edited by - welshoff on 04/25/2006 10:09:39

Tradewind
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Response Posted - 04/25/2006 : 17:42:40

The PO of my WK installed tracks on each coaming for the sheet blocks. A little more work but seems to work well.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 04/25/2006 : 19:17:23

Wil, thanks for the pictures. That's pretty much how I plan to do it, only I'm gonna put a stanchion mounted fairlead in place of the block as you have it.

TomG
I'll take plenty of pictures for you. Sure you can't stop off on your way out West?

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 05/12/2006 : 18:48:43

Its done! I mounted the cablin tops winches. Ran the jib sheets back to the coaming winches using a rail mounted fairlead. Works like a champ!

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 05/17/2006 : 12:21:43

what is the preferred location for the stripper arm on the self tailing winch located on the coaming box in relationship to the stern seat on a WB? or is it a case of personal preference

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welshoff
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Response Posted - 05/17/2006 : 14:45:05

I point the "stripper arm" towards the centerline of the boat so the sheet tailings fall into the cockpit.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 05/17/2006 : 15:03:18

Jay,
like Wil, I pointed mine toward the center of the cockpit so the sheets would fall inside the coaming. Moving the winches to the coaming has really made a difference sailing single hand.

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 05/17/2006 : 19:56:22

thanks for the advice I will adjust mine

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