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AllenJ
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Initially Posted - 05/27/2006 : 18:27:29

Just bought a '95 C250WB this spring (#43)and am still learning my way around. Finished my sailing course and enjoy handling 'Marcella' the 4 times we have been out, but still much to learn. Really appreciate this site and am a little overwhelmed by how much there is to learn. The salts who regularly contribute here are extremely helpful.

I am also learning a lot about repairs, and have just finished doing my first gel coat repair to a couple chips on the stern. (Turned out rather nice!) Now I need to repair a mooring cleat on the starboard bow with a broken horn. From the cabin I am unable to see whether there are nuts/washers underneath that nest the bolts holding this mooring in place, and when I removed the bolts I didn't here anything 'fall' from underneath. Problem is the mooring cleat is still firmly in place even with these bolts taken out, and I am a little afraid to twist it in order to determine whether there is more than marine sealant holding it in place. I need advice and courage. Have already ordered a couple replacement nylon cleats from Catalina Direct.

Any words of wisdom from someone else who has done this type ofrepair? Keep this boat on the trailer, and bing far away from boat yards and other sailors is also a handicap. Appreciate any help rendered here.

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Rich G
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Response Posted - 05/28/2006 : 08:41:50

On the Catalina 25, access to the bow cleat bolts is in the anchor locker. Never having been on a 250, I don't know if it's different. I just replaced my stock bow cleats with 10" stainless steel cleats so they would hold mooring lines better:

I'm going to the boat this afternoon and will take pictures.

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bear
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Response Posted - 05/28/2006 : 09:33:26

I believe if you took the insspection plate off that's in the anchor locker you could see if there were nuts holding the screws/bolts, also I'm sure there is some sort of sealant holding the cleat in place.

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AllenJ
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Response Posted - 05/28/2006 : 15:36:39

Negative to both suggestions. There is no obvious access to the bow cleats from the anchor locker on this sweet chestnut of a C250, and nothing that resembles an inspection plate present. Any other ideas?

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bear
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Response Posted - 05/28/2006 : 17:59:06

Allen I have S/N 89. I have a round what I call access plate I believe it is right around the area for the vent for the water ballast. The boat is 45 miles away but I plan on being up there tomorrow, perhaps your S/N was too early for this access panel.

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AllenJ
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Response Posted - 05/28/2006 : 19:17:47

I appreciate your willingness to help. Now that you mention it in the fore wall of my anchor locker there is a round panel, several inches in diameter, which I have not been able to figure how to open. Don't understand the purpose of this panel although I suspect that it may give access to the wiring for the bow running lights. It is too small and too far forward to help access the mooring cleats, however, from all that I can see. Anyone who wants to educate me about this panel would likewise be appreciated.

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welshoff
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Response Posted - 05/30/2006 : 12:02:48

Allen,
The access panel should screw out (counter clockwise). This gives acces to the to the bow area forward and somewhat to the side of the anchor locker.

I took one of my bow cleats off when installing an anchor roller (I ended up leaving the cleat in factory position and just moved the anchor roller around for placement). I found the nuts for the cleats seem to be embed in epoxy or sealeant - they are very solid whatever is holding them in place? I tapped the cleat with a small hammer to break the sealant bond after the bolts were removed. The factory installs them with sealant - probably to bed the cleat to reduce any water penetration around the bolts.

Note: the newer model C250's have stainless steal cleats. I would go with these over the nylon version. I think they are probably stronger - less prone to break. Just a suggestion.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 05/30/2006 : 14:26:07

Wil has it right, the nuts or more likely a tapped backing plate are glassed or otherwise secured within. What I wouldn't do is tap on the bolts as they are coming out as that might release the backing plate.

The plastic cleats were discontinued and I think Catalina replacements will be metal cleats.

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AllenJ
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Response Posted - 07/05/2006 : 20:41:57

Regret the delay in this response but recently completed a move to the Rappahannock River area of Virginia, just off the Chesapeake Bay (where I was able to do some wonderful sailing last week including our first family overnight on our C 250). I was able to obtain a replacement black plastic cleat from Catalina Direct that matched well, and thanks to the excellent advice provided on this post successfully installed it without incident. Would eventually like to change to metal cleats but aesthetically this would mean changing all the deck cleats, and I would rather be sailing for now. Many thanks to the contributors here, and kudos to the Association Forum as an awsome resource for Catalina sailboat owners!

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