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kevinmac
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Initially Posted - 06/26/2006 :  15:40:52  Show Profile
I am going to Puget Sound next week. I have only 1 weeks sailing experience off Shilshole prior to this.

I suspect I will encounter sea states I never see in the Columbia River. Can anyone, especially someone who has experienced the short period swells/waves that are found in Puget Sound, make a recommendation as to how much is too much for this, i.e. if 6' seas are forecast, should I stay in the marina? Or what number would you use? I not as concerned about wind strength by itself, as we get that where I sail, and I have been out in 25 knots (which I agree is the reasonable limit for the C250).

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Kevin Mackenzie
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 06/27/2006 :  08:07:21  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Kevin,

The Great Lakes also have short swell periods and six foot is my limit to sail. I motored a few miles accross a bay once in eight footers and can say there is a world of difference between six and eight.... I hope never to sail in eight footers.
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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 06/27/2006 :  09:25:37  Show Profile
Thank you Arlyn, that is very helpful. Nice to hear from someone as experienced as you, thanks for taking the time.
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JJM
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Response Posted - 06/27/2006 :  19:29:25  Show Profile

Boat design categories as defined by Institute Recreational Craft:

This link to the Catalina Yachts website:

http://www.catalinayachts.com/certif.cfm
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 06/27/2006 :  20:41:55  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
John, thanks for the link... interesting... their numbers confirmed my thoughts about six foot being a reasonable upper limit.

C - "Inshore" up to and including [Beaufort]6 (22-27 kts.) up to and including 2 (6.5 ft.)
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JJM
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Response Posted - 06/29/2006 :  11:28:42  Show Profile
You are welcome Arlyn. I had seen this quite some time ago and use it as a gauge when determining if I should venture past the breakwater!!!
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Waterboy
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Response Posted - 07/03/2006 :  00:58:36  Show Profile  Visit Waterboy's Homepage
I don't think I've ever been out in even 4 or 5 foot short period swells/waves. How does one accurately gauge how large they really are? I do know that while the C250 can look awfully large on the trailer, it can feel awfully small in larger water. And 'larger' is definately relative; I am humbled by those who have approached blue water in 25' Catalinas.

When I climbed there was an aphorism that kept me alive. "He who climbs and runs away lives to climb another day." Meaning, a dead hero is no hero. I find the parallels between sailing and climbing quite close.

Greg C250 Sabrosa in Klamath Falls, OR
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