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Badly Chalked topsides (deck,cockpit, etc.

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Randolph G. Wilson
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Initially Posted - 07/04/2006 : 10:23:26

The deck and other horizontal surfaces on my '83 C25 are badly chalked. I have tried several products, all of which require a serious amount of elbow grease that really doesn't solve the problem. Am I expecting too much for this older boat? Is there a product that is easier to apply with a more lasting effect? I know this problem has probably been addressed by many others. Would certainly appreciate some help.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/04/2006 : 12:03:14

Vertglas... a polymer coating. Should be lots of threads in the archives here. Folks that have used it report very good results.

http://www.vertglas.com/index.html

On my badly dulled C25 I used Meguiars boat cleaner/wax to good effect. The 3M stuff works, but takes a LOT of effort. (as you may have discovered). May try the vertglas on the next haul out. (soon).

Before using the Vertglas, get some FSR (fiberglass stain remover) and go over the surfaces... it does an amazing job of brightening them up. You want to do this before applying Vertglas as it will coat and shine things up, but won't remove stains or dinginess underneath.

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 07/04/2006 : 12:49:10

NO Free Lunch.

You either apply something over what you have, or you restore your surfaces.

Combination cleaner waxes sound great - two steps in one. A friend, who keeps his boat looking pristine, finally clued me in: a cleaner is used to clean, a wax is to wax. Sounds simple, but think it through -- the cleaner is to muck up the dirt; if you combine the wax with it, all you're doing is trapping the dirt inside the wax.

He uses Collinite No. 925 fiberglass cleaner, followed by Collinite Fleetwax. I have started to do so and the boat's never looked better.

Sure, it's extra work, but like mom used to say, "when was work ever a drag?" (on a boat that is!!!).

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atgep
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Response Posted - 07/04/2006 : 12:56:31

I have been using Polyglow for the past couple of years. It work as advertised. The hull looks like a million bucks. I went the cheap way and use softscrub with bleach for the cleaning. It does an amazing job. I do not reccommend using polyglow on the topsides. It makes the surface slick! I a great way to go over the side!. My gelcoat was too far gone to start using wax.

Tom.

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djn
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Response Posted - 07/04/2006 : 19:14:08

'I used the Polyglow system on the hull but just wash the topside with BoatSoap. The dull look on top does not reflect the sun and blind me. Cheers.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 07/05/2006 : 09:22:55

TOPSIDES - The sides of a vessel between the waterline and the deck.
http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/gloss.htm#T

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dave holtgrave
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Response Posted - 07/05/2006 : 22:34:36

hey stu jackson
do you do the decks also with the two step???
i used your process on the vertical surfaces above the deck but, was afraid that the deck surfaces may be to slick after i polished.
also, afraid if deck gets wet

any thoughts are appreciated.

dave holtgrave
5722 sk/tr
sailing carlyle lake in southern illinois.

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ct95949
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Response Posted - 07/06/2006 : 11:00:04

Randolph-
If you are talking about the chalk(dirt,wax,oxidation?) that buils up in the pits of the non skid surfaces then I feel your pain.After trying several products and methods I found a bristled plastic disc from 3M that I used on a cordless drill.I wet the deck,scrubbed a section and rinsed-the deck looked like new.It did take some time to do all the non skid but the results were worth it.I'm not sure what to apply to protect the new surface since wax on non skid is not recommended.Any ideas out there?

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PamC
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Response Posted - 07/07/2006 : 10:08:11

We bought some Aurora Sure Step which is made to be a wax for non-skid decks. http://www.auroramarine.com/aurora/catalog/01420/index.html

I wish I could give you a report on it, but we haven't gotten around to that part of the project yet. Unfortunately our deck was beyond the point of restoring with a good dose of elbow grease. It was either paint or a gelcoat job & our bank account chose the paint. We chose to go with a solid white and added silica sand for the non-skid areas. It wasn't a fun project, but I have to say I love our new non-skid.

As for the topsides, we used Poliglow this year for the first time & are very pleased with the results. We used Simple Green & a nylon scrub for the first cleaning step, followed with PoliPrep & then applied the Poliglow. It made our 26 year old boat look like new.

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 07/07/2006 : 15:39:21

Dave

Good question. I use the stuff on the hull and cabin sides and cockpit and anything else without non-skid. I have NOT used it on deck. Our hull is white, the non-skid is tan. I keep the non-skid clean with soap and water, but recently bought some non-skid cleaner, although we haven't used it yet. We're off next week for a two week cruise and I may find time to try it, say on the anchor locker hatch, to see if it works.

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BLEE
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Response Posted - 07/09/2006 : 20:49:00

I used Vertglass on my 85 this spring. It shined up the oxidized gelcoat very nicely.....but requires numerous applications. Not a lot of elbo grease, but plan to spend some time. I applied 5-8 coats to get a great shine. Per the Vertglass instructions, I will only need to apply one refresher coat next season....so I put the investment in this year and will hopefully reap the benefits next year. Bottom line is I am very happy with the products results.

Bob

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 07/10/2006 : 13:06:14

Similar to Pam, I also bought Aurora's Sure Step "Non-Skid" wax but have not had a chance to use it yet on my non-skid surfaces.

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