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Dustysailz
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Initially Posted - 08/06/2006 : 08:54:34

Greetings all. It is time to repower "Ode To Joy" and I am seeking advice on which motor(s) to look at. I am considering 8 hp four strokes mde by Honda, Nissan and Yamaha. Anyone have any advice to offer in this area? Thanks and smooth sailing.

Samuel Jennings, "Ode To Joy", '84 Std. Rig, fin keel, #4503

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 08/06/2006 : 09:56:50

I just got a 8hp, 4 stroke, long shaft Merc and am completely happy w/ it. Also consider authorized service centers and the brands they maintain when choosing an O/B.
Fair winds!

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/06/2006 : 10:22:32

Hi Dusty... The three you're considering are the cream of the crop. The Nissan happens to be a rebranded Tohatsu, so you could put that name on your list. Honda and Yamaha have been doing 4-stroke outboards longer than anyone, but theirs are a fair amount heavier. With either, you don't need more than 8hp. Honda has the strongest alternator. Mercury also rebrands Tohatsus, but last I saw they don't offer an extra-long (25") shaft, which IMHO is a must for you in the Narragansett. With the Nissan/Tohatsu, that means getting the 9.8. Whichever you pick, you'll love it!

To protect your investment, I'd also install a Racor fuel filter/water separator as I just did (see the "ethanol" thread on the General forum.) And what about your bracket? What do you have now? You might need to upgrade it for the weight and thrust of the 4-stroke.

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Dustysailz
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Response Posted - 08/06/2006 : 10:52:03

Dave, thanks for the advice, I hadn't considered an in line filter. WAs it expensive, did the installation require two fuel hoses? Any other considerations for installation? Where can they be found?

My bracket was attached to the boat when purchased. The old motor was an Evinrude, Yachtwin, Sail-master which was farily heavy itself. As we're at midpoint in the season, I'd hate to have to haul the boat to change the bracket, especially since my yards travel lift is too small to haul with the mast stepped.

Thanks for the response.

Edited by - Dustysailz on 08/06/2006 10:58:11

Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/06/2006 : 11:48:59

Dusty: I recall spending $60-something for the Racor--a cheap insurance policy. I simply cut the existing fuel line and installed one end from the tank into the filter, and the other from the filter out to the engine. Make sure you have the right sized barbs for the line. I needed adaptors to hold the smaller barbs. (You might be able to see on this close-up... Maybe not.)

Opinions vary on which side the primer-bulb should be on--I left it on the engine side. You should use something like Permatex on the threads for the adaptors and barbs--two barbs for hoses and two blanks. I hose-clamped the lines to the barbs. Also, I was told to apply a libricant to the filter seal before tightening it--otherwise it's a real bear to replace. (An oil filter wrench helps.) To initially fill the filter, I had to hold the engine-connector open with a little nail and then squeeze like crazy.

The Nissan/Tohatsu, at around 95 lbs, might be OK on your factory (stainless tubing?) bracket. The Honda (108) or Yamaha (115) might be a bit much, but it probably won't break or fall off. (Make sure you have a safety cable.)

You can decide what to do between seasons, based on your experience with it this season.

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 08/06/2006 17:40:12

JimB517
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Response Posted - 08/06/2006 : 13:16:12

I happy with my Tohatsu 9.8 25 inch shaft. With your members discount from Online Outboards it is only $1875 with no tax and no shipping charges.

Thats about a grand less than the Honda and Yamaha.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 08/06/2006 : 14:34:47

I replaced my original bracket with a 4 spring and bought the 9.9Hp Honda. The Honda is a great engine. Works fine in reverse as well as full steam ahead. Especially like that it is quiet but expect any of the new engines would be fine as well.

With the old 2 spring bracket, a block and tackle is needed to assist with the heavier motors. The 4 spring bracket is needed for any that weigh over say 90LBs. I left my block and tackle on and you will see it in photos on my website but the I use the block and tackle only as a safety if for some reason the motor was to start to fall off the bracket.

I especially like when I can i most instances, leave my dock at slowest idle speed in forward and negotiate the slips/docks and get out of the marina without hardly even hearing that the motor is on. If the wind is blowing a bit, then I leave at just slightly greater than lowest idle speed and still very, very quiet.

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pegasus
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Response Posted - 08/06/2006 : 18:17:42

For what it's worth, I purchased a Tohatsu 6HP, long shaft (25"). I haven't run her full throttle much as it's still in the break-in period. However, it gets me around the lake at about 5.5 knots. It's a one-banger and pretty lightweight conpared to the larger motors. It has the charging connection but not the wires - so I spent about $15.00 on wire and connectors. I bought it from Outboards Online and was very please with the service.

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