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lwirth
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Initially Posted - 09/05/2006 :  13:03:27  Show Profile
This is my first season sailing -- on Seneca Lake in the Finger Lakes. I need to have the marina take me out by 10/31, and am wondering what I need to do to make sure there are no plumbing problems over the winter, with the supply tank, holding tank and connecting hoses. Also, any other winterizing tips that should be taken care of on or before the big day arrives would be very helpful. Thanks, Larry

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 09/05/2006 :  13:19:52  Show Profile
Larry,
Are you planning on wrapping your boat? I'm leaning against it and also plan to keep the mast up, although I may ease the tension on the stays.
Jerry

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 09/05/2006 :  13:30:54  Show Profile
Larry,

Winterizing my plumbing system consists of draining the freshwater tank and pumping out the holding tank. After the tanks are emtpy, I pour RV anti-freeze in the freshwater tank then pump the sink faucet until the stuff runs through it and out through the thru hull. I then pour anti-freeze into the head and flush it down leaving some in the bowl. Lastly, I close my thru-hulls.

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lwirth
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Response Posted - 09/05/2006 :  13:35:32  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by jerlim</i>
<br />Larry,
Are you planning on wrapping your boat? I'm leaning against it and also plan to keep the mast up, although I may ease the tension on the stays.
Jerry
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Jerry, I am not planning to wrap the boat. The previous owner through a tarp over the top but I don't know if that is really necessary. I also plan to leave the mast up. Larry

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 09/05/2006 :  14:00:57  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
If ice can bring down a mountain think what it can do under stantion bases, teak stips, mast base, etc. I would never leave a sailboat exposed to ice. I tarp.

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Gambit
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Response Posted - 09/05/2006 :  16:42:57  Show Profile
I agree with Don's flushing of anti-freeze. I put the better part of a gallon in the head holding tank (after the pump-out of course).

Definitely tarp if you can. I built some wood brackets that hold the mast about 18 inches over the stern rail and the pulpit, and provide a support at the mast base. After coiling and zip tying shrouds and stays I web a line back and forth from the lifelines over the mast. This gives the tarp some support and pitch for drainage. Having the extra height lets me get in there from aft during the winter for projects.

Leaving the mast up results in a great deal of stress from ice and wind load. A boat in the water will rock and roll thus not stressing the rigging but a boat on the hard would feel it more. It is a pain, but with help it goes down and up pretty easy.

We also remove all sails, lines, cushions and valuables in case mice or other dirty rats come aboard.


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jerlim
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Response Posted - 09/05/2006 :  18:53:27  Show Profile
George - I'm confused, why is being on the hard more stressful for a boat w/ the mast up?
Thanks! Jerry

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 09/05/2006 :  22:21:17  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by jerlim</i>
<br />George - I'm confused, why is being on the hard more stressful for a boat w/ the mast up?
Thanks! Jerry
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Jerry,

When your boat is on the hard, the forces generated by the wind on the rigging are static and aren't dissipated by the motion of the boat as they are when she's afloat.


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wmkoines
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Response Posted - 09/08/2006 :  15:11:20  Show Profile
Only thing to add, if you can take your cushions out and store them some place dry. I also pour anti-freeze into the bilge along with head and fresh waster system.

I think it’s a good idea to cover. I use a tarp and made a frame with PVC tubing. I know that NY snow gets high in your parts.


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Champipple
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Response Posted - 09/11/2006 :  15:38:57  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Some years we have wrapped, others we've tarped, others we've done nothing.

There are drawbacks to each.... At the very least I think you need to cover your cockpit.


I am a little concerned about the comments of leaving the mast up. A good number of guys here do it, (here meaning cleveland) however the club will not let anyone do it that is on jack stands.

I've seen many a boat take a huge beating because the mast has been left up. If you have a furler, at the very least remove the headsail. The stresses on the deck for a mast left up on the wind on land are pretty darn large. Especially when the counter forces would normally be occurring below the waterline where the boat can rock a little bit at the dock.

It's easy to do - if you are out of the water for more than a week, please drop the mast....


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lwirth
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Response Posted - 09/12/2006 :  14:13:43  Show Profile
I understand putting anti-freeze in both the fresh water tank and the holding tank and the head -- I assume with a minimum of other liquid. Do you also need to do anything special with the line and valves that bring water through the hull into the head? Thanks, Larry

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John P
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Response Posted - 09/12/2006 :  15:51:41  Show Profile  Visit John P's Homepage
Where I live, (Northern NY), everybody leaves their mast up. The majority tarp and only 1-2 out of 100+ boats actually shrink wrap.

Last winter, I did three tarps (mostly because I removed all the exterior woodwork). I had a small (8x6) that covered the hatch area, then a larger 10 x 10 that covers the pop-top and the hatch area, finally, a 12 x 16 that covers the hatch area up to the mast. This year I may opt for more of a tent style to allow access during the winter months...

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joegeiger
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Response Posted - 09/20/2006 :  08:24:25  Show Profile
I bought a 40x30 tarp, made some wooden supports to lay the mast across and then weave clothesline around the lifelines and mast along the length of the boat. The tarp goes over this whole thing and I lace the tarp like a shoe through the metal gromets in the tarp snug against the bottom of the hull. Be careful about ice buildup. Last year I had to replace a stantion because the weight of the water and ice on the tarp bent one of the starboard stantions.

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