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Where to find keepers for the stays?

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delliottg
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Initially Posted - 09/10/2006 : 14:11:50

We noticed that one of the little rubber keepers that retain the stay clips in the mast has either disappeared somehow, or wasn't there in the first place. We looked all around the boat for it when we were derigging last night to no avail. Where can we locate some new ones?

David
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bear
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Response Posted - 09/11/2006 : 12:35:14

David, If you are looking for the rubber inserts that lock the baby stays and lower mast shrouds into the mast I replaced both of mine last year. Catalina engineering got them for me [free of charge]. The bad news is I don't remember them giving me a P/N. The phone number I believe has also been changed into Florida. I believe someone else will chime in with more info for you

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 09/11/2006 : 13:02:14

Bear,
Those are exactly what I'm referring to. Am I supposed to have them for the baby stays as well? If so, then I'm missing three of them, two for the baby stays, and one for the inner port shroud. I was going to post some photos to show what I'm talking about since no one had responded, but it sounds like exactly what you're describing.

Does anyone have the contact information that Bear refers to?

Thanks!

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Response Posted - 09/11/2006 : 14:19:42

David,
Here are the numbers I have for Catalina Yachts:

Catalina Yachts (California) 818-884-7700
Catalina Yachts (Floridia) 727-544-6681

They are very helpful when calling for parts.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 09/11/2006 : 15:12:59

Thanks Wil, I'll give them a call. Do I need them for the baby stays as well?

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Response Posted - 09/11/2006 : 17:56:32

David,
FYI - I use them on the baby stays when raising/lowering the mast. Adds a small sense of security - don't want the stays to come out during the raising/lowering process.

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Response Posted - 09/11/2006 : 18:23:21

David, Whatever stays you choose to use them for change out the one that is left. What happen to mine was it became cracked, deteriorated
and came out when raising the mast. If you get a good P/N please post?

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 09/13/2006 : 19:00:35

I found a source for the [url="http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Tangs-complete/T-Ball_Backing_Plates.htm"]Gibb T-Ball Rubber Retaining Plugs[/url], scroll down a little. You'll need to know what size you need.

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Response Posted - 01/26/2008 : 15:55:07

I used the link http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Tangs-complete/T-Ball_Backing_Plates.htm, to find the retaining plugs, does anyone know the size?

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 01/26/2008 : 17:17:59

If I remember correctly, it was this:

Retaining Plug for T-Ball w/ 3/16" & 5mm wire: GIB 742-6:
Rubber Retaining Plug for use with Gibb T-Ball Backing Plate Tang, GIB 740-6, for 3/16" wire. Rubber Plug (visible when installed) is 5/8" (16mm) high x 11/16" (18mm) wide.

But I'd measure an existing one to make sure. These can also be had from Fisheries Supply, and they're cheaper by a bit. As I remember Rigrite had a $12 minimum shipping fee, even for tiny things like these, so if you only need one or two, you might check out Fisheries first.

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suttergold
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Response Posted - 01/26/2008 : 18:18:23

Thanks for the info.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 05/04/2008 : 08:40:10

Back to looking for a supplier of the T-Ball rubber shroud keepers.

Tom's link in another post is a deadend, I found the following on RigRite.com

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Retaining Plug for 'Rounded' T-Ball w/ 9/32", 5/16", 7mm & 8mm wire: GIB 842-08:
Rubber Retaining Plug for use with Gibb 'Rounded' T-Ball Backing Plates, GIB 840-M07, and GIB 840-M08, for 9/32", 5/16", 7mm & 8mm wire. Rubber Plug is 1" (25mm) long x 5/8" (16mm) wide. Plug is marked with the number 7/8, which is visible when installed. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Tangs-complete/T-Ball_Round_Backing_Plates.htm

However those are for use with the shroud plates! we have shroud tangs for the main and plates for the lowers.

I tried calling catalinayachts in CA but they are swamped and don't get back even after 2 calls and an email within a week.
Currently playing telephone tag with catalinayachts in Largo.

We're prepping JD for our bimini trip. I'm replacing all of the rubber keepers (1 missing, the rest have been out in the sun for the best part of 3 years.)
Also replacing the T-bolts of the shrouds and backstay (a couple of stress marks)(I stood on them when the mast was down and they bend!) so I'm replacing all 5. I'll purchase a couple of extras JIC.

So the question is still ... which ones? suttergold, did you purchase them from rigrite, were the ones David suggested the correct size?

Paul

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 05/04/2008 : 10:51:59

Paul,
[url="http://www.fisheriessupply.com/online/search.asp?N=0&Ntk=All&Ntt=t-ball&Nty=1&D=t-ball&act=A02&hideprops=1&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial+rel+Inactive"]Fisheries Supply[/url] carries all of this stuff. It sounds like yours is different from mine, but give this place a look-see.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 05/04/2008 : 11:00:57

When mast raising I have started using a long piece of velcro wrapped around the mast to hold the mid-mast shrouds in the right (parallel to mast) position. As the mast goes up and the shrouds tighten and are pulled outwards, the velcro is separated and falls to the deck. This prevent the shrouds from getting off kilter in their mast holes.

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