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djn
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Initially Posted - 11/27/2006 :  09:06:07  Show Profile
Hi All, I have a two slotted foil on my furler and a second jib. I found out at the end of this season that I could hoist the second jib for running wing on wing. I tried it and it works great so I was going to actually set up for this over the winter. Not knowing much about racing, I was wondering if this was legal for racing? Cheers.
Dennis
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/27/2006 :  09:27:57  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
One headsail at a time when racing. The two slots do make for nice sail changes while going upwind without and not going bare headsail.
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 11/27/2006 :  10:39:57  Show Profile
Check the sailing instructions for the particular race. The general rule is that you can only use one headsail while racing, but, two are allowed if the sailing instructions expressly permit them.

If you don't have a spinnaker, twin headsails will get you downwind in a hurry, and it's a lot of fun in a good wind, but don't forget that it'll take a long time to beat to windward all that distance when you want to come back.

I haven't tried furling twin headsails, to reduce sail area downwind, but don't see any reason why you couldn't, if the wind piped up and the boat got hard to control.
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Renzo
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Response Posted - 11/27/2006 :  13:58:38  Show Profile
The CRCA used to allow double head sails butlately the practice has been dissallowed. Even when we allowed it, the second head sail was limited to 85% of the primary head sail and could only be attached at the head and the clew (no connection to the head stay inbetween). Also when changing head sails during a race some racing instructions prohibit "skinning" sails which means that you have to drop one sail before you can raise the other.
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djn
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Response Posted - 11/27/2006 :  15:05:16  Show Profile
Thanks all. I am still going to rig the second halyard for that and the asym-spin. It is a cool sight to see two 135% wing on wing. Cheers.
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Renzo
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Response Posted - 11/27/2006 :  17:04:57  Show Profile
Hey Dennis! Since you were asking if this modification was legal for racing, am I to assume that you are considering racing on Thursday evenings this year? It sure would be great to see another C-25 out there.
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 11/27/2006 :  17:11:11  Show Profile
Dennis, if you put the boat on a very broad reach, but not dead downwind, you can fly twin headsails and also your mainsail. The jib on the side opposite the mainsail should be poled out, although it's possible to get by without a pole on any sail. The wind comes over the windward, stern quarter and fills all three sails. If you steer too far downwind, then the mainsail will smother one of the jibs. I would suggest you only do it with crew. You'd think the boat would get squirrely with the sailplan unbalanced and with so much sail area, but it's very stable, even in a lot of wind.
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djn
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Response Posted - 11/27/2006 :  18:19:54  Show Profile
Hi Larry, yep, with my change in job I am now available on most weeknights and I plan on racing. I am looking forward to it.

Hi Steve, I did exactly that a couple weeks ago. I was by my self and it did take a little running around, but it was very stable once I got it all set up. Cheers.
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dblitz
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Response Posted - 11/27/2006 :  18:59:06  Show Profile
Wouldn't going dead downwind guarantee an
accidental gybe?
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djn
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Response Posted - 11/27/2006 :  19:05:46  Show Profile
Hi Daniel, I rig preventer on the main to prevent that happening. It is a line from the end of the boom to the cleat on the bow. Cheers.
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