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cat1951
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Initially Posted - 12/23/2006 : 18:11:07

Ok.. Now I know that this isn't about the C25 model, but since it is Christmas, I have been dreaming. The disease has hit and I just can't help looking at larger boats. I have been looking at the Catalina 28 and the Catalina 28 MK II and was wondering what the differences are...if anyone knows. It does appear that the MK is much more expensive even in the used market. Now I am not ready to move up, but the sickness has no cure that I know of.

Also, does the MK stand for "Mark" or just "MK"...?

Sorry to get off the 25's, but it is the holiday after all.

Mike
Grand Lake, OK
N.O. Catalina 25 #4849
In my opinion 75% of the earth is water for a reason. That's why I sail.

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djn
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Response Posted - 12/23/2006 : 18:42:18

This link is in the link section. I am sure you could find data there.....Cheers.

http://www.aztec.com/catalina/c28a/

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 12/23/2006 : 20:42:28

Thanks Dennis,
I didn't even think about the link section.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/23/2006 : 20:59:08

We have two 28s and a 28 Mk II at our lake. The original 28 had mast issues. My understanding is the first 100 had a taller rig, I think they had problems with the masts failing at the halyard exits. I believe that Catalina found all 100 and replaced the mast section and changed the original rig design, this involved chain plate changes and inside you will see reconfigured supports. Even the new mast sections needed a second fix that involved reinforced halyard exits. The MK II have dual spreader rigs. Confirming or dispelling this info is at least a place to start.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 12/23/2006 : 21:00:52

Thanks Frank... I did look at the C-28 link that Dennis provided. Still have to dig more, but there isn't much data available on the differences that I can find so far.

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 12/24/2006 : 14:06:13

My recollection is that the Mk II is from a different deck/cabin mold that includes the open transom and some other subtler changes to the cockpit. I also think (could be wrong) that's when they went to the double-spreader rig allowing closer sheeting of the genny.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 12/24/2006 : 19:21:58

Dave, I believe you are right on the transom. From the pictures that I have found, the non-MK model has the standard transom. I will have to look at the spreaders to see if they are double. I am a long way from even considering getting one of these, but it never hurts to wish....

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 12/25/2006 : 09:59:49

I always liked the C-28-II... Nice accommodations, wide side-decks with shrouds on the inside, roomy cockpit, open transom... but it seems a more manageable size than the C-30 for singlehanding. For cruising, the storage is a little tight, but coming from a C-25, it'll seem cavernous.

Sweet dreams...

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Fantasy II
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Response Posted - 12/25/2006 : 20:51:48

OK, while we are at it - how about the 270? That's the one which has really caught my eye

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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 12/26/2006 : 02:28:37

Mike, contact Gene at Redbud on Olagha(sp?) they have all the info you would want on the boat, and may be able to locate some for you, they do have the 270, and a new 320 in stock, it's worth the 25min. drive to go and look at them in person, I did also the hunter 26.

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Chris Z
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Response Posted - 12/26/2006 : 09:05:32

I read all these condsiderations of other type of boats. I would have to tell you that the reason I have purchased the C-25 was two factors that I have not seen in another brand or another size. The price to purchase a used one and the amount of information available. I did not expect to see this amount useful information. I would be very hesitant to step up to another size for a few more feet and lose the resources that can help owning and managing this boat.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 12/26/2006 : 09:21:23

Not really stepping up yet... we just purchased our 25 this year. However, the boat is intended to get our "feet wet" (not literally) after taking our keelboat course from ASA. The Admiral wants to have a more stable boat, and one with wheel steering. Don't get me wrong, I love the 25, but if I want to spend any length of time on her, I need more head room. I plan on adding the pneumatic lifters to the pop top next season, and start using the pop top covering. That will relieve some of the pressure to move up. And I don't want to go much beyond 28' anyway. With lake sailing, even on Grand Lake which is quite large, the tacks are just not that long, and the bigger the boat, the smaller the sailing space feels. The C28 or C28 MK II, meets with most of our (and the Admiral's) requirements. Large berth under the cockpit, larger V berth, wider/taller cabin, separate head, and wheel steering.

That said, I am not running out next year to find one. However, it doesn't hurt to begin the research and stay open to a deal you just can't refuse. We took over a year to find the 25 we have now, and I wasn't even considering one as old (1985) as we ended up with. But I can say without a doubt that the one we purchased is in beautiful shape, and has many of the extra's that we wanted. It is just hard to argue with the Admiral after 29 years. Yes, you can argue, but you never can win....

I mean think about it, if your Admiral wanted to move closer to the lake (which we are in the process of doing) and wanted a bigger boat... wouldn't you want to agree? How often does that happen?

If you have to ask, you haven't been married.

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