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jimhart
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Initially Posted - 01/15/2007 : 09:26:46

I do have a question but first what a great sailing weekend.
Friday four of us on an O'Day 25 in winds of 12-15 mph then Saturday four again on a Person 23 in winds of 15-18 with higher gust and Sunday three of us on my Cat.25TR with winds of 15-18mph with gust of 25+. What fun and the air temp.eas mif 70s.

As I was getting thing back in order at the slip I noticed that I had about a quart of water in the area under the aft port seat(I have the dinette interior)and just a little water in the bilge (less than a cup). The boat was dry before we went sailing. So, were did it come from? Maybe from where the deck and hull jion? We did put the rail in the water on both sides. The starboard side was as dry as a bone.

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djn
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Response Posted - 01/15/2007 : 11:39:49

It could be from unbedded stantions or if you've had rain lately, it might be a portlight leaking. I have the dinette and when it rains, that is where the water accumulates. Cheers.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 01/15/2007 : 14:20:07

I agree--a stanchion or a "deadlight" (portlights open, deadlights don't). A hose or a bucket should be able to tell you the story--deck first to test the stanchions, then the deadlights. I'm guessing the latter, given the quantity of water. There are numerous historical threads on re-sealing deadlights (search on "window", etc.) and materials from Catalina Direct.

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jimhart
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Response Posted - 01/16/2007 : 08:46:03

Thanks for the suggestions. What seems odd to me is that I get no water inside when it rains. Even after the last 3+ inch rain the boat was dry.

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djn
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Response Posted - 01/16/2007 : 10:09:54

Hi Jim, I would then check out the guys you are sailing with.....they might be missing the head...... :>) I am not sure the how the deck and hull are sealed when they are mated at the factory, but it might be a leak when you put the rail in the water. Try keeping the rail out of the water for a couple of sails and see what happens. Cheers.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 01/16/2007 : 10:27:25

Swing keel

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jimhart
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Response Posted - 01/16/2007 : 10:43:31

The guys that were sailing with me were all retired so they may be useing the space under the seat as the head. One advantage they have is the ability to go sailing any day of the week. It's must be nice.

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Response Posted - 01/16/2007 : 10:48:47

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tinob
 Swing keel

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I don't think water could get into that compartment from a swing keel--it's like a sealed box (on the bottom). It's beginning to sound like a hull-deck joint issue. The good news is it isn't going to sink the boat any time soon.

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djn
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Response Posted - 01/16/2007 : 17:01:50

Agreed Dave, if it were the keel box, it would not stop leaking until the boat was on the bottom. Cheers.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 01/18/2007 : 07:46:34

On my swing the water came through the pivot box into the bilge til it came around to the passage under the galley sink and then into the area under the dinette aft seat storage compartment. Heeling to port exacerbated the condition.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT, # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 01/19/2007 : 08:58:23

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tinob
 On my swing the water came through the pivot box into the bilge til it came around to the passage under the galley sink and then into the area under the dinette aft seat storage compartment. Heeling to port exacerbated the condition.
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Then I'll take back what I said... I don't think that route from the bilge exists on the fin unless you put the mast in the water.

There's an old trick for sleuthing these things out: draw colored chalk lines in the hull, perpendicular to suspected paths. When the water comes in, it washes spots away from the chalk lines, giving away its path. I used it to discover a leak around the transom drains. In salt water, the "taste test" can also verify rain water versus sea water--I never tried that...

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tinob
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Response Posted - 01/20/2007 : 11:13:01

Smart move Dave the thought of drinking bilge water always seemed a red flag thing to me. But that dang swing of mine leaked as a piece of Swiss cheese might have trying to be water proof.

Val on the hard, # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 01/20/2007 : 12:41:47

Hey Val, your sig picture does not show up and there is an "end" bracket after your name. FYI

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tinob
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Response Posted - 01/20/2007 : 13:02:23

Surprised someone noticed...been that way for months...don't know how to remedy the situation...had something to do with a Shutterfly changeover. Not worth the effort.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT, # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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