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Buck
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Initially Posted - 02/03/2007 :  11:23:26  Show Profile
I am getting ready to install easy lock mini line locks on my Cat 25
and i need to know where to correctly install them how far forward of winch etc. I have a double for one side and a single for the other .
I also have a full spinaker . Which side should I put the double on
Thanks Buck

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/03/2007 :  11:35:40  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Do you man line clutches, what brand is the hardware? The layout of the deck of your boat and running rigging is a very personal thing, driven by desire and reality.

Most desire the concentration of sail controls aft on the cabin top. To that end I don't think many would recommend less than triples on each side, a few more and a few less but most would say triples. There are far more than six candidates for lines lead aft so two triples is in no way overkill.

What lines do you envision bringing back? You will find a lot of photos of deck and spar hardware on my web pages in my sig. Here is one; are you wanting to run line something like this?


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Buck
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Response Posted - 02/03/2007 :  11:48:40  Show Profile
That Is Exactly the picture I needed I was given these line locks as this boat
still has cleats behind the winches . I am planning to use them for main and jib halyards , that run back on deck. do you think I need to put a double on the other side for the spinaker Thanks for the reply

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/03/2007 :  12:21:09  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I think you should put triples on each side and if you need to use the hardware you were given then I would put both on one side and buy a triple for the other. If you look closely in this photo, the starboard side has a double and a single staggered, the port side has a triple. The triple is the cleaner installation but staggered single and double worked just fine.

This photo is of my '82 which I set up for racing, starboard was the main halyard, two line reefing and Cuningham, (that required an additional clam cleat aft of the winch. To port were two headsail halyards, the outhaul and an adjustable boom toppinglift, (this also required and additional clam cleat). A symmetrical spinnaker needs a downhaul, toppinglift and halyard all by itself. Which additional lines might you want to run back? Personally I would consider reefing controls to be a must.

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 02/03/2007 :  15:22:09  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage
Buck,

I think you're relatively new here (at least as a poster), so I'll just mention that if you haven't yet done so, you might try searching our archives for previous threads on related topics. I'm not trying to discourage you from asking specific questions, just pointing out a resource you might not have found yet. Here's a link to a recent thread on [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14498"]control lines lead aft[/url]. I agree with Frank, no such thing as too many control lines lead to the cockpit! I left a 6-1/2" gap between the bases of the winch and clutches to avoid pulling line at too extreme an angle coming out of the clutches.

-- Leon Sisson

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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 02/04/2007 :  10:21:23  Show Profile
Frank, I was scrolling through your web site pictures and saw Fellowship in your yard with....GREEN GRASS and TREES... and a hose out to wash the boat...AHHH Spring is coming :) Here now it is about 5 degrees.. YUUCH

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/04/2007 :  11:36:08  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
She sits outside my home office window with a tarp over her now. It has been weeks since I have been aboard, this has been a cold wet winter for us too. I am looking at her now and getting ready to fire up Turbo Tax, sometimes it is good that your boat is on the hard. Speaking of taxes... see new thread on general.

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Buck
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Response Posted - 02/04/2007 :  22:06:00  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Leon Sisson</i>
<br />Buck,

I think you're relatively new here (at least as a poster), so I'll just mention that if you haven't yet done so, you might try searching our archives for previous threads on related topics. I'm not trying to discourage you from asking specific questions, just pointing out a resource you might not have found yet. Here's a link to a recent thread on [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14498"]control lines lead aft[/url]. I agree with Frank, no such thing as too many control lines lead to the cockpit! I left a 6-1/2" gap between the bases of the winch and clutches to avoid pulling line at too extreme an angle coming out of the clutches.

-- Leon Sisson
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Leon thanks for the info also where is the best place to put
the cam cleats for jib winchs 90 degrees to the winch or pointed slightly to the stearn of boat Thanks Buck

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 02/04/2007 :  23:02:18  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage
<center>Jib Sheet Cleat Locations</center><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Buck</i><br />...where is the best place to put the cam cleats for jib winchs...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">That depends almost entirely on where the sheets are going to be tailed from. Try sitting in the cockpit where you'd be hauling in on a jibsheet from, holding onto a line wrapped around the coresponding primary winch. Look along the path of the line for a likely spot to mount your sheet cleat (probably on the coaming not far from the winch). I've even seen boats with two cleats per primary winch, one positioned for singlehanding (helmsman trims headsail), and the other for doublehanding (crew trims headsail).

-- Leon Sisson

(<i>And what's with the preview font settings? It looks like once the font switches to that [ quote ] style, it doesn't switch back after [ / quote ]. But after I posted the message, the fonts sometimes display correctly.</i>)

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 :  07:17:30  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Not wishing to hijack the thread...
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">(And what's with the preview font settings? It looks like once the font switches to that [ quote ] style, it doesn't switch back after [ / quote ]. But after I posted the message, the fonts sometimes display correctly.)<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Looks like Arial to me, but the style is
Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2" color="191970
unless spnMessageText style is different.

I just tested the quote surround and it worked fine in preview

Paul


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