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Derek Crawford
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Initially Posted - 07/03/2002 : 11:45:57

We've had up to 20" rain througout our area in the last 48 hrs...Canyon Lake (that "little puddle"<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>) has risen 20 feet since Sun eve and is still rising. We have one road into the marina which is now under 8' of water...Until the marina starts a pontoon boat shuttle service from the highway to the marina we are cut-off from our boats. And tomorrow was to be the biggest long distance race of the year...<img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>
I think it's worse than being on the hard!
Derek

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 07/03/2002 : 12:01:32

I would be happy to have a torrential downpour, if it would just bring some wind with it. We haven't had enough wind to lift a telltale for about a week-and-a-half, and there doesn't seem to be any coming. It takes all the fun out of being retired. Hell, I might as well go back to work!

Steve Milby "Captiva Wind" C-25 T/FK #2554

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OJ
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Response Posted - 07/03/2002 : 12:07:42

Derek,
I lost many weeknights, Saturdays and/or Sundays of boat maintenance to rain this spring - which accounts mostly for my not launching OJ until 30-Jun-02! Latest ever!

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Response Posted - 07/03/2002 : 12:13:11

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I would be happy to have a torrential downpour, if it would just bring some wind with it. We haven't had enough wind to lift a telltale for about a week-and-a-half, and there doesn't seem to be any coming. It takes all the fun out of being retired. Hell, I might as well go back to work!

Steve Milby "Captiva Wind" C-25 T/FK #2554
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Steve,

I'm with you regarding the doldrums...same up here in cleveland...except maybe a little offshore at sunset, but the temp on land hasn't cooled down enough to even help that. Right now I am on the 31st floor looking out onto the lake and there is wind...and I am stuck here.

Duane Wolff
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/03/2002 : 12:51:07

Well here in the NYC area, it's TOO DAMNED HOT! Way hotter than Miami, Houston, Dallas... with full sun and Houston-like humidity. I took yesterday and today off to do some work on the boat, and can't stand the sweat running in my eyes. Relief is due Friday... The Northeast could use some of those gully-washers!

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 07/03/2002 : 12:52:23

Here in my part of sunny California we average 12" of rain per year. I can't even imagine the rain you folks in Texas have had in just a few days. With the snow melt pretty much over in the Sierra's we are seeing the level of the foothill lakes all going down. No rain in sight for at least 3 months. <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 07/03/2002 : 13:04:49

Average rain fall where I live is about 70 inches. It can go higher in wet years. Olympic peninsula can get upwards of 150" a year. It rains right through into July every year. I havent seen a dry 4th of July since I have lived here. Its has become something I have to just plan around. Inside maintenance if its raining and outside when its not. My job is an outside job so I just dont let the rain bother me. I sail in it I even BBQ in it. If its a realy warm summer rain I love it.

Doug&Ruth
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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 07/03/2002 : 14:14:00

Please, please, PLEASE send the rain east. Here in Virginia things are very very bad. Many of my farmer friends will go out of business this year, no matter what happens the rest of the summer. Resevoirs are shockingly low. Most municipalities have imposed water restrictions.

Today, July 3, the temp here in Richmond is 97. The heat index is 105 - 110. I was hoping to sail for the 4th and watch fireworks on the water, but as most of you know, there are few places less comfortable than an unshaded boat cockpit in 98 degree weather and no wind.

This is NOT fun!

Brooke

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 07/03/2002 : 14:44:05

Here it's 75 degrees, southwest wind 10 - 15 knots and clear (some A.M. fog). Global warming has the level of our pond (Pacific Ocean) up an inch or so.

Of course, we have to deal with the traffic, crime, pollution, killer commute, high cost of living, etc.

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RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 07/03/2002 : 15:19:53

I'm with you Brooke! My grass is dying and the fields I drive by on the way to Deltaville are looking quite parched.

We were planning to sail to Urbanna or Irvington for the fireworks tomorrow & explore the Corrotomon River this weekend, but it'll just be TOO DARN HOT! Maybe we'll come around Stingray Point on Friday if the temps go down into the 80s (we keep our boat in Fishing Bay on the Piankantank River). It'll be a shame to miss the fireworks though.

Cathy
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/03/2002 : 15:22:36

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Of course, we have to deal with the traffic, crime, pollution, killer commute, high cost of living, etc.
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Richard... Speaking from the NYC area, I'm not impressed by your "problems"... BTW, our thermometer on the North side of the house now reads 97.9... no, make that 98.1... no,...

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 07/03/2002 : 15:39:27

from the NYC area, I'm not impressed by your "problems"

Dave -- True.

But try to find a decent slice of pizza around here...that truly sucks!

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/03/2002 : 22:31:12

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But try to find a decent slice of pizza around here...that truly sucks!
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Yes, Richard--food we have, like no place else in the world! (I've been to a lot of them...)

It's down to 84 here in CT at 22:30--92 in NYC--won't go below 80 before sun-up, and then back to a damp 97 or so...

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 07/04/2002 : 00:36:16

Gee Dave, that sounds like a typical late Spring day in Central Texas <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>
Derek

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 07/04/2002 : 00:51:56

20 feet! Does your marina have floating docks and are they capable of a 20 foot fluctuation? If that happened here at my marina with it's fixed concrete docks, all of the boats would be under water and the animals would start lining up two by two looking for an ark!

Don Lucier, North Star
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tinob
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Response Posted - 07/04/2002 : 09:22:34

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We've had up to 20" rain througout our area in the last 48 hrs...Canyon Lake (that "little puddle"<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>) has risen 20 feet since Sun eve and is still rising. We have one road into the marina which is now under 8' of water...Until the marina starts a pontoon boat shuttle service from the highway to the marina we are cut-off from our boats. And tomorrow was to be the biggest long distance race of the year...<img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>
I think it's worse than being on the hard!
Derek,

This calls for a LEMANS start: prospective racers line up on the interstate...starter gun goes off...racers swim to their boats...and the race begins.

My nephew, Patrick , hearing that we were a little short of rain in our reservoirs voluntered some prayers to alleviate the situation...it hasen't stopped raining yet. Might be your problem.

Gotta speak to the guy.

Val on "CALISTA" #3936
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Val Bisagni

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Spain
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Response Posted - 07/04/2002 : 09:50:26

Present conditions on the Chesapeake (at Thomas Point Light) at 9 AM EDT 4 July 2002. wind NNW (340 deg ) 7 knots gusting to 7 knots. air temp 84 degrees, WATER TEMP. 81.3 DEGREES.

It looks as if it will be another hot one. The information above came from the National Data Bouy Center which has bouys around US coastal waters and abroad. http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/rmd.shtml

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/04/2002 : 12:02:33

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Gee Dave, that sounds like a typical late Spring day in Central Texas <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>
Derek
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Ya, ya,... But it's hotter here than Dallas or San Antonio today. <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> As for water levels, our tides rise and fall 6.5-8.5 feet, depending on the moon--20 feet would be above the tops of our dock pilings, so the whole club would float away! We do have to worry about that with a hurricane...

But my concern right now is for NYC tonight...

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 07/04/2002 : 12:51:19

Don - yes we do have floating docks. Canyon Lake is a flood control impound run by the Corps of Engineers that dams the Guadalupe River(only in America would they put the army in charge of water...) Datum is 909 feet above sea level and on Sunday it was at 908. This morning it hit 943 and the water is now over the spillway for the first time ever. The marina staff (who have to come in by boat)are quite used to raising & lowering the docks/walkways as necessary - they get lots of practice as this is our 4th flood in 15 years (the last was 1998).
It will probably be 4 - 5 months before we can drive into the marina.
Derek
P.S. At my house we have now had 24" rain since Sunday evening and the forecast is for more to come<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

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BCain
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Response Posted - 07/04/2002 : 15:52:05

Here in Florida we have had a 3 year drought, but now we have our typical every afternoon thunderboomers. Yesterday was the first day out of 19 days that it did not rain. When I left Wind Shadow after cleaning her up it was starting to rain. My Lake was so low that I could not get out of my slip for about a month but today when I checked the water was up 10 inches and Wind Shadow is ready for a night sail to watch the fireworks.

HAPPY 4TH TO EVERYONE.

Bruce

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 07/04/2002 : 18:11:39

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It will probably be 4 - 5 months before we can drive into the marina.
Derek
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Derek,

Did you mistype that? ... MONTHS?! Does that mean you're not going to be able to sail until Christmas?

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 07/04/2002 : 22:08:29

Buzz - no, that was NOT a mistype! We have to wait for the water to go down off the marina road (and it has currently 23 feet over it!) and then wait another 4 - 5 weeks for the road to dry out so that you can drive trailers etc on it.
However, the marina will run a pontoon boat shuttle every hour from the far edge of the water to the marina, starting at 8.30a.m. and ending at 7.00p.m. It should start this weekend. (You have to take out your own garbage!)
Derek

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/05/2002 : 10:11:18

Derek: We're trying to picture this "island marina" of yours... How far off shore is it? I think we need a pic!

Also, it sounds like you may need to watch for semi-floating logs and some other interesting objects when you're sailing... <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

WOAH!! I'm watching CNN's report--you could sail right over the dam's spillway without dragging your keel! THAT would be a ride! What a mess! How's your house, Derek?

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 07/05/2002 : 11:17:31

Dave - this is the first time since the dam was built that water is going over the spillway. Yesterday the river was bringing in 1.5 BILLION gallons an hour - the lake is expected to crest at 948 feet above sea level - 40 feet above datum (or where it was Sunday p.m.!!)and 5 feet over the spillway.(I'm sure there will be more shown on CNN etc as this is the worst ever.)
We had t'storms over the area most of the night - at my house we have now had 28" rain since Sunday...
Dave - thanks for asking about our house - the driveway (which was gravel) has pretty much washed away and we have 2 major leaks in the roof. Otherwise we are hale & hearty!!
Derek

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Response Posted - 07/05/2002 : 12:12:29

Derek - I feel for you guys on Canyon. We are having our excitement on Travis, too! On June 27th, we were 15.5' below pool elevation. Right now (10:45am), the lake has risen to 6.5' over pool (an increase of 22'. Travis is expected to rise another 3.5' by late this afternoon. No telling where we will max out. The Pedernales and Llano rivers continue to send water our way.

Every year, we enjoy the City of Lakeway's fireworks display. The barge sits about 150 yards to our south and we have the pleasure of watching the beautiful display almost straight overhead . . . we don't even have to leave the slip. The booms from the larger loads will cause your clothing to move; you can feel the blast! Anyway, we arrived at the marina at 6pm yesterday with water starting to rise over the parking lot. By the time the display ended at 9:40, the water was well over the lot. I had to haul the trailer home last night because there is no telling how long the lake levels will be elevated. Could be a couple of weeks . . . certainly not the months that it will take for Canyon to resume normal levels.

I note that the latest weather forecast gives us a 70% chance of rain today. The radar looks pretty ugly to the west in the Highland lakes watershed. Same for the Guadalupe.

Mark Melchior
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Response Posted - 07/05/2002 : 13:38:21

Do you guys down in Texas have to do everything in such a big way?

Lee Spain

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