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1978 C25 listing to port

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Buck
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Initially Posted - 03/30/2007 : 19:55:44

I was just wondering if any body out there has a slight list to port side on there catila 25. I have cked for water in bottom of boat and removed depth transducer to have a peek between floor and bottom of boat
up by the head and it is dry, and also under covers in galley are dry . Ive also looked at other cat 25 and they have mtrs on port side as mine does . I was thinking of putting my battery over on starboard side. I also keep my water tank full. I also have removed every thing from the boat that isnt bolted down and it still lists. IS this a chronic problem
on the cat 25 with swing keel Thanks Buck

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/30/2007 : 20:31:14

Usually that question relates to an early model boat, what year is yours?
Recently there was a survey about interior designs, it occurs to me that the dinette and probably the L as well are port heavy; fuel, engine, head, blackwater tank, galley. I wonder how many of the port listers have all those characteristics in common.

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Buck
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Response Posted - 03/30/2007 : 21:45:10

My boat is a 1978 catalina

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Buck
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Response Posted - 03/30/2007 : 21:47:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Buck
 My boat is a 1978 catalina with dinette
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bear_tm4
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Response Posted - 03/30/2007 : 22:06:46

I have an 83, and if anything I would say it list to the stbd, but only a trifle. Mine is a dinette, with, dry water tank, motor and batteries all on the Stb side. I am moving batteries this year to a more central location. Underneath the rear dinette seat, in the center, or as close to center as permitted by the compartment, I would guess the center line of the battery will be roughly 12-16 inches from the center line of the boat, this location also puts weight of batters lower in the boat, will see how it works...heck not to big of deal to move them back if it sucks.....but as was previously metioned, could have to do with location of things like motor n such. My list was only a trifle, as I said, that was with motor, dry water and batteries to the stbd side, so move some stuff around and see what you get. forgot to metion my fuel is on port side.
Its really interesting the variety of interiors that they made.
cheers

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 03/30/2007 : 22:22:51

the early boats list to port, as does my 78 fin.

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Buck
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Response Posted - 03/30/2007 : 22:26:44

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by JimB517
 the early boats list to port, as does my 78 fin.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">were you able to do any thing to help it other than keep the
water tank full

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 03/31/2007 : 11:18:24

Water tank full, battery on the starboard side.. miscellaneous heavy stuff stored to starboard... and she should sit pretty level then. What model outboard do you have?

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 03/31/2007 : 11:24:09

I have an 88 wing that listed to port when I bought it. The dealer had the engine on the port side. I moved it to starboard and corrected the list..........or at least, it's barely noticable.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 03/31/2007 : 11:38:41

I keep the water tank full and moved the batteries to starboard under the quarter berth. Still its about 5 degrees. Doesnt affect anything sailing.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/31/2007 : 11:44:08

With water tank full and battery in the starboard settee, my boat sits on an even keel.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/31/2007 : 14:15:23

There are about 3 or four things to think of.

1 - empty the head tank.
2 - put a bit of water in the water tank
3 - make sure your batteries are on starboard
4 - make sure your keel is down

You essentially need to offset the crap tank, motor and gas tank with the batteries and water tank

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tinob
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Response Posted - 03/31/2007 : 16:27:51

There are a few things not mentioned that could possible lead to a boats listing.

The first thing that I think of when this topic comes up is wind on the mast and or current on the keel. Both are capable of producing list.

The other thing that possibly could cause a boat to list is a mast out of column, leaning in the direction of the list.

Has anyone tried laying a plank atwartship with a spirit level on it to determine the degree of list, or a bucket of water on the cabintop to depict listing?

Val on the hard DAGNABIT,#3936, Patchogue,N.Y. but on an even keel when in water.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/31/2007 : 16:54:45

Hey Val - I'm thinking of naming the next boat "the Hard Dagnabit"

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thaind
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Response Posted - 04/01/2007 : 10:11:56

I have a 78 FK and about a 3 degree list. The usual engine, fuel tank, head tank on Port is not balanced by the water tank and battery. I have increased the problem by replacing the princess stove with a three burner oven combination. This happily obliges me to keep several gallons of Scotch on the starboard side and monitor the evenness of keel regularly.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 04/01/2007 : 12:02:35

Duane,

That might cause my departed dad some concern

He was an old time European with very conservative moral structure. I knew him for fifty or so years and never heard him say anything even slightly shady. Not even hell or damn. The very worst expression that I ever heard from him was DAGNABIT, this usually reserved for times when he hit his finger with a hammer, or such. And so I express my total frustration with not being able to sail using my dad's expletive of choice.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT,#3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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