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Nautiduck
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Initially Posted - 04/04/2007 : 23:01:20

OK, it is Launch minus 9 days and counting. Tomorrow I bottom paint, Saturday the mast goes up and then a week to get everything cleaned up and the name put on the boat. So, it is time to figure out the running rigging. Here's what I see:

Main halyard and jib halyard exit opposite sides of the mast.
Starboard mast step has two blocks, a double deck organizer and two line clutches.
Port side of mast step has no blocks, single organizer and single line clutch.
CDI Roller furler line comes up to the coach roof on the port side through two padeyes.
Boom has an internal outhaul that exits on the boom with its own cleat on the boom.
Boom has an internal reefing line that exits at the mast end of the boom.

So, I am figuring:

Main halyard goes through a starboard block, organizer and line clutch.
Reefing line goes through the other starboard block, organizer and line clutch.
Furler line goes through the port organizer and line clutch.
Jib halyard is not used and ties up to bottom of mast somehow, maybe a cleat.

Sound right?

We cannot direct the winds but we can adjust our sails.

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Turk
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Response Posted - 04/05/2007 : 04:31:38

Jib halyard goes through the port block to port side line clutch. If you have a schaefer furler (or similar) you raise your jib by pulling it up the plastic sheath to the top of mast using the jib halyard.

Standard reefing on a 250 is all on the mast using a small block on the portside mast. Sounds like you may have a reefing line led to the cabin (using the starboard side additional clutch.)

Furler drum line runs from drum down the port side.

Topping lift line ties to top of mast "before" raising!

Did you not get a manual? Download one from the association home page. Your configuration may vary.

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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 04/05/2007 : 09:28:22

Your "on deck" hardware sounds unfamiliar to me, so you may have either an earlier setup, or the PO changed things around.

You did not mention the topping lift, which runs from the top of the mast (as Turk noted), over a (pulley, don't know correct sailing term) at the aft end of the boom and into the boom, then out on the (starboard, I think) side.

I can go look at the boat if you like (please, give me an excuse... ;-) If you are up in Portland before the 9 days is up, give me a call, you can drop by and see my boat, which is in the water and rigged...

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welshoff
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Response Posted - 04/05/2007 : 10:10:48

Randy,
My set original set up (factory) was:

Outhaul (internal in boom) - exits on the port side of boom to a jam cleat.

Reefing line (internal in boom) - line exited boom on starboard side to a jam cleat (this line only controled the clew - tack was controlled by a separate line at the mast - I also tried a reef hook).

Main halyard - exits mast starbord side to turning block through deck organizer to rope clutch.

Jib halyard (I have shaeffer furling) - exits mast port side to turning block through deck organizer to rope clutch.

Furling line - runs port side boat through pad eyes (some boats it ties to a cleat, my boat it goes to/throug a cam cleat).

Changes to my rigging:
No topping lift - I have a boom kicker.
Single line reefing - I now use single line reefing. The line now goes through a turning block at base of mast (starboard) through deck organizer to rope clutch.

Hope this helps. I like my set up - very user freindly.

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Jarrett Anderson
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Response Posted - 04/05/2007 : 11:10:08

Hey Randy,
My boat Victory2 is a 250wk hull #421, I bet our boats went through the factory together.

I have been following your postings and sounds like your on the right path.

You just got several great rigging plans. Mine is very similar to the welshoff's listing.

I cut my topping line. I put a snap hook on the end that attaches to the boom, and a ring that I can switch to, on the remainder of the line that runs through the boom. This just gives me more options

I really liked your idea of running the furling line through the clamp on the cabin, mine is secured on the black cleat on the port side. The stock line that comes with the furler may not be thick enough for the clamp. If it is stock I would change it out for a thicker line- just more comfortable in your hand. The drum will accommodate a lager line.

I teach rope rescue in the fire service, like rescue rope systems there are a lot of great ways to set up your rigging. The beauty of having a boat is your the Skipper and you can set your rigging up to work for you.- Jarrett

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 04/05/2007 : 11:28:30

Great feedback folks, keep it coming. I do not have a topping lift, and I bought a boomkicker for that purpose. I have a CDI furler which does not use the jib halyard at all. My owners manual does not match exactly what is on the boat but it does seem that the reefing line is long enough to come back to the cockpit. I'll be at the boat this afternoon and will take a couple of pictures. Today is bottom painting day. What fun!

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 04/05/2007 : 11:57:15

Randy,
My rig is set up just as you described only on the Port side my "none used" Jib sheet runs through the port mast block back to the Port side clutch. I tie off the CDI furler line to a small cleat on the port side cabin top. Even though I have the a CDI, I still use the jib sheet for various other things. I'll be doing my bottom job when I pull out for the BEER Cruise in May.

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frogger
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Response Posted - 04/06/2007 : 07:20:15

My boat, Cruisin' Forever, is a 250wk hull #447 set up to factory standards with wheel, CDI furler, catbird seats, etc. I plan to set up for single-handed sailing in a fairly large lake in SC. Boat is kept in water berthed at a marina. Still trying to figure out the best way to customize. Thanks for all input.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 04/06/2007 : 13:19:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by frogger
 My boat, Cruisin' Forever, is a 250wk hull #447 set up to factory standards with wheel, CDI furler, catbird seats, etc. I plan to set up for single-handed sailing in a fairly large lake in SC. Boat is kept in water berthed at a marina. Still trying to figure out the best way to customize. Thanks for all input.
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Sounds like Lake Murray! I use to fish that lake quite a bit years ago.

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 04/06/2007 : 23:13:28

My $.02 cents:

With my 110 CDI furler, the jib halyard is secured at the base of an outboard port shroud, its bitter end secured to a cleat on the mast.
The furling line runs from the drum aft through eyelets on the port side and is secured with a rotating cam cleat.
I removed the cam cleat from the boom vang, reversed the vang, and run the control line through a block at the base of the mast, then back to and thru the port clutch.
The starboard inboard clutch is for the reefing line, the outboard clutch for the main halyard.
I removed the reefing line from inside the boom. It now runs through a boom end block, forward thru eyelets along the port side of the boom, thru a block on the mast at the gooseneck, up to the cringle, down to a block, then back to the clutch.
I also loose footed the main.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 04/07/2007 : 11:18:50

Here is my all lines to cockpit setup. The small amount of racing I do now days is single handed so therein is the reason for lines to cockpit. Of course it is a great help cruising with the General also.

Starboard side out to in. Drifter halyard, main halyard, topping lift.

Port side out to in. Reefing line, jib halyard used with snapfurl roller, outhaul line.

Base of mast setup. Two large blocks came with boat size 30's added four size 25's the smaller, but plenty big enough.

Mast line exit left to right. Topping lift, outhaul, reefing

Starboard side line stowage.

Port side line stowage. The additional far left lines are the drifter tack line and roller furling line.

Edited by - frog0911 on 04/07/2007 11:28:10

Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 04/07/2007 : 14:22:36

Thanks Frog! Very helpful and a very nice setup. Well done.

Are the two Pretty Penny boats in this forum related in some way?

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 04/07/2007 : 14:44:53

I believe PRETTY PENNY II was named for the cost of the boat. My PRETTY PENNY is named after my wife, Penny. But it's a double entendre

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 04/07/2007 : 16:17:03

Frog, Thanks for posting those pictures, guess I need to study that line setup for next month huh!

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 04/07/2007 : 21:47:15

No, the lines are mine, you get to helm. That way if anything happens you get all the grief. We may get some rail meat from a friend of my daughter's, boy friend. Every little bit helps.

As far as the Pretty Pennys go, the orginial was my 79 C25 WK. Hence Pretty PennyII and yes it had to do with cost as expressed by the General.

Edited by - frog0911 on 04/07/2007 21:51:21

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