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esailor
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Initially Posted - 04/11/2007 : 19:01:35

Hi guys,

I am contemplating taking my boat to a marina with a hoist to have it lifted and replace the swing keel cable. I do not have time to do it nor am I comfortable attempting by myself it yet. Time actually being the biggest factor.

First question what is a reasonable price for this service?
They quoted me 300 to 350 which sounded reasonable just so I don't have to mess with it. I figure it would take me at least a full day which right now I do not have.

Second question, Should the pivot pin be replaced at this time since it is up?
What is a reasonable price for this as well?

Thanks guys.

Pete Hagar
Dayton,Ohio
Indian Lake
2770 82/SR/SK/9.9 evinrude

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 04/11/2007 : 19:39:44

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by esailor
 ...I am contemplating taking my boat to a marina with a hoist to have it lifted and replace the swing keel cable ... what is a reasonable price for this service? They quoted me [$]300 to [$]350... Should the pivot pin be replaced at this time since it is up? What is a reasonable price for this as well?...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Here's how I see it:
<ul><li>$100 = "Short Haul" -- boat never leaves the slings.</li>
<li>$ 50 = Pressure Wash -- starting while the boat is still wet after lifting, includes removing ALL marine growth unless totally encrusted with barnacles.</li>
<li>$ 75 (1 man-hour) = replace the cable (and that's if they're slow and have to go hunting for tools).</li>
<li>$ 75-$150 (2 man-hours) = Keel Pivot Work -- disassemble and inspect, reassemble with new bolts sealed with goo and tightened with a torque wrench. This may involve a forklift, and probably a machine operator in addition to a tech, depending on how the yard deals with swing keels.</li>
<li>$100-$250 = Parts, Materials, & Supplies -- new cable, attaching fasteners, 4 keel pivot bolts, maybe a keel winch and/or pivot pin, bandaids. Take a look at your winch, and consider having a new one on hand (along with a pivot pin) when the boat is lifted.</li>
<li>Not included: labor & materials for bottom paint, zincs, swing keel rust, and any other gremlins which show up once the boat is in the slings. If the boat has to be blocked for additional yard work (using their labor), I wouldn't expect the yard to charge for blocking, lay days, or the second lift, so long as the ball is in their court. (They're either working on it, or waiting for stuff they ordered for it.)</li></ul>
-- Leon S.

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Cate
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Response Posted - 04/11/2007 : 19:57:24

I had my entire keel retrofit this week. Parts ran about $240 and labor was about 6 hours. Leon's price quotes above are accurate for my area, NJ.

P.S. Wish I had been able to take pictures of this project, but I had to work during the day so I could pay for the project :)

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 04/11/2007 : 20:02:08

IMHO stuff...

Cable replacement... 1-2 hours of labor (there's one point where you need two people.)

This is somewhat dependant on condition of the winch, what style keel-to-cable attachment
you have and what shape it's in.

If the turning ball and pin have been replaced already and aren't
fiberglassed in place, only 1/2 hour for changing those (trivial stuff). If they
are fiberglassed in and/or have some problem... can take a lot longer.

If you're going to have the keel pin inspected... I'd allocate a couple hours labor
for that.

Important 'regluar maintenance' stuff is having a good cable,
upgraded cable-to-keel attachment, lubricated turning ball, pin,
and making sure the winch in good shape.

Do you have the Catalina Direct 'C-25 owners bible'?

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