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kevinmac
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Initially Posted - 05/01/2007 :  10:30:02  Show Profile
Folks,

I have my new 7-17 whisker pole for my 135 genoa now. Only problem is, if the wind is light, the pole is so heavy it slides down the jib sheet, away from the clue. Would it make any sense to put a stopper knot in the jib sheet so this won't happen? Or should I tie a loop of line through the clue to use instead of the jib sheet? Or?

Related question. On the 250 with CDI roller furling there is a spare halyard, which we have been trying to use as a topping lift for the whisker pole. Does anyone have a picture of how they rig this at the pole - i.e. how they attach the halyard to the pole, yet make it easy to remove for a jibe? Or is a topping lift for a whisker pole a dumb idea?

Thanks in advance for your help...
Kevin Mackenzie
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/01/2007 :  10:35:33  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I have a simple knot about 4" back from the clew and it works very well.
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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 05/01/2007 :  11:05:23  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
Kevin,

Regarding the topping lift, I have one for my 7-17 also. On my pole there is a loop machined into one pole end. I use that end to attache the sheet and the topping lift to the loop.

Although the pole is not particulalrly heavy, it can be clumsy when extended. I have found that the topping lift helps to balance and control the pole while jibing. I also use the pole with my symetric cruising shute when on a long off-wind tack. The pole would be much too heavy for this light air sail if i didn't use the topping lift.

I have also considered, but haven't tried yet, rigging a bridle for the pole so that I can anchor it to the bow eye and extend the tack of the sail out beynd the bow, much like a sprit. This would not be legal when racing but would make the asym more efficient down wind when cruising.
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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 05/01/2007 :  11:28:07  Show Profile
Kevin,
According to the Forespar web site there are three lines you can attach to the outboard end of the pole. The controlling sheet, a topping lift (which you are using the halyard for)and the unused sheet which can be tied off to a bow cleat. Between those three lines they say you can pretty well lock it down. They have a good write-up on their web site concerning the use of a whisker pole.
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 05/01/2007 :  13:18:35  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
I have a small loop of vinyl covered cable through the clew of each headsail I use the pole with. Just clip the pole end to this instead of to the jib sheet.

I use my spinnaker topping lift to help support the whisker pole. You could use a halyard. I just bring the line down to the mid section of the pole, make a couple of wraps on each side of the standing part of the line (kind of like a clove hitch or running hitch), and clip the shackle back to the standing part of the line. Works fine, has never slipped.

My old whisker pole (traded for the spinnaker pole) had an eyelet in the middle. This was held on with a lashing of fine rope. Worked fine, you don't need much lifting force, just enough to keep shape in the jib in light air. It doesn't matter if it is near the inboard end of the pole.
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bbriner
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Response Posted - 05/01/2007 :  23:54:24  Show Profile
Like Jim I use use the spinnaker halyard as a topping lift, attached to the outboard end of the pole. Without that the pole does what you describe. With it - no problem. Makes it easier to jibe too...
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 05/02/2007 :  15:07:07  Show Profile
I have a 4" diam circle of 3/16" line through the clew of the jib (I just spliced the ends together). The clew on the jib is full of jib sheet, so this circlet makes it easy (and quicker! ) to set the pole.
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