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megrier
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Initially Posted - 05/22/2007 : 13:53:34

Hi to all, I did a search for the topic of "stern rail seat". I did not find what I was looking for.

does anyone know if there is a company that makes one that will fit on my 82 C 25?

Thanks

Greg

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megrier
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Response Posted - 05/23/2007 : 11:24:12

Found a company by googling.

Stern Perch

$249.00 for the seats and an extra $179.00 for a rail kit to adapt to a C 25.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 05/23/2007 : 14:14:41

Greg, are you looking for a seat for the helm (at the wheel) ?

Sean has a very cool looking hammock slung between the catbird seats.

We carry a generator and that sits ontop of the fuel locker with a sunbrella cover that goes over the stern rail, there's memory foam padding inside the front and top of the cover, makes a cosy seat/back rest when at the helm.

Paul

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sodonnell
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Response Posted - 05/23/2007 : 23:17:21

Can you post the web site URL?

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megrier
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Response Posted - 05/24/2007 : 08:11:53

http://www.zarcor.com/s2k/boatlist.htm

You will need to purchase the "Rail Kit" to use the seat on a C25. They have a picture on their web site of the seat with the "Rail Kit" on a C25.

I went ahead and splurged ($428.00 "GULP") and spent the money cause I have awlays wanted to make a seat and have not had the time in the past few years. So, I ordered it and talked with a fellow on the phone out of Texas. He said it should be here in 2 to 3 weeks.

I will check back in with the forum to let you guys know if I am happy with spending all my hard earned money.

Greg

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/24/2007 : 10:32:36

Greg,

Those Stern Perch seats don't appear to be comfortable especially for hours on end or when heeling.

Stern Perch

On my boat, I use Sport a Seats with a square throwable cushion underneath to raise me up a bit but not so much that I can't see under the genoa. Sitting in this seat is so comfortable I sometimes nod off as if I were sitting in a recliner at home.

Here is a video with my ever present Sport a Seat. I actually have four of them. One for every member of the family.

[url="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4057230084458630944"]Video[/url]

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 05/24/2007 : 10:44:24

Ya know, Don, that's a video of my biggest sailing fear. The boat sailing on with the helmsman's seat empty. As in: the solo sailor (me) fell overboard and the boat sails away. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr chills down my spine!

Cool seat though!

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 05/24/2007 : 10:46:43

Uh, Don. There appears from the video to be no one in your family.

Has anyone tried out the Side Gunwale Seat WM# 406793 by Garelick. Use the WM# to find it on westmarine.com. It looks well built and I'd like to see if it could serve as a foldaway seat for behind my wheel on a C250. I don't want to use a cooler or such because it is already too tight back there when I need to use motor controls. A foldaway would be great and this appears to be something that could be mounted to the stern rail setup. I have seen this seat without the gimbal rod holder on other sites for about $180.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/24/2007 : 11:14:44

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 Uh, Don. There appears from the video to be no one in your family.

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That's because I'm mainly a singlehanded sailor (the family only goes along a few times a month).

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Captain Bill
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Response Posted - 05/24/2007 : 13:04:27

Greg, is this what you had in mind?

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5cf00b3127cce95308c2a234a00000016102EbN2rJyzYm

I know I didn't do the picture correctly but I'm late for lunch.

Bill

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/24/2007 : 13:10:59

Bill,

How much does your stern seat impede the operating or lifting of the outboard?

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Captain Bill
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Response Posted - 05/24/2007 : 13:48:03

Don,

I don't think the seats interfere much with the motor operation. Since this picture was made I have installed a Grauhof 4 spring motor mount which is really great. Keeps my back from straining.

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Response Posted - 05/24/2007 : 13:58:40

Don, I didn't get to finish. I couldn't get out of spell check (but I like it)! The back stay is really a hindrance. Since the PO changed the traveller set up to whatever it is now, it's a REAL pain in the back to get to the motor. It's especially annoying when backing into the slip trying to control the motor and the rudder simultaneously while leaning through the back stay wire. Other than that I love the seats, makes visibility great.

Bill

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Captain Bill
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Response Posted - 05/24/2007 : 14:23:47

Don,

Here's a better view of the back stay. It's very difficult to get under it to reach the motor when the motor is down. Seats don't seem to interfere very much. Also another shot of the seats in use. From this angle you can see why the backstay makes it difficult. But I still love the seats (and so does youngest son).

Bill
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5cf00b3127cce95376cfb433e00000016102EbN2rJyzYm

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5cc38b3127cce965554017b7800000016102EbN2rJyzYm

Now if I could only remember where the icon is to use in posting pictures!

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megrier
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Response Posted - 05/25/2007 : 07:55:14

Bill,

Looks like you had to modify the actual rail. I can see that you have added another rail and it bends around undernieth your seat. Correct?

Greg

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Response Posted - 05/25/2007 : 08:36:01

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Captain Bill
 Don,

Here's a better view of the back stay. It's very difficult to get under it to reach the motor when the motor is down. Seats don't seem to interfere very much. Also another shot of the seats in use. From this angle you can see why the backstay makes it difficult. But I still love the seats (and so does youngest son).

Bill

Now if I could only remember where the icon is to use in posting pictures! <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Bill: Click the

button and then paste the URL between the (img) and (/img) tags, or highlight the URL and click the button.

Have you thought about moving the adjustor tackle to the port side?

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 05/25/2007 08:37:48

Captain Bill
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Response Posted - 05/25/2007 : 13:20:11

Greg, that's right. The seat sits on a 1" piece of stainless which runs between the two down rails and a third which is welded to the top rail and runs down and in under the seat and is welded to the straight piece. Makes a solid seat. I'm not sure if the PO did this or this is an accessory item. I think he mentioned he did it himself.

Dave, do you mean one wire on each side of the ladder? That would be a big help to me if it would work. The wires would be closer together but would that matter?

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5cf00b3127cce95376cfb433e00000016102EbN2rJyzYm

I finally found the icon but only the above appeared not the picture. I clicked on the properties of the picture site and then the icon and above is the result. Still doing something wrong.

I really love the spellcheck feature. Great addition.

Bill

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/25/2007 : 13:31:42

Bill: What I was talking about moving is the 4-part tackle that adjusts the backstay, which appears to be attached to your starboard backstay chainplate. I was thinking if it were attached to the port chainplate, that'd be four fewer things between you and the outboard.

Now for your pictures... If you edit your post (the yellow pencil button), then highlight the entire URL for the picture, and then click the Insert Image button, it puts codes before and after the URL--you'll see them--that make it appear as a picture. You can use the Preview button to see the results before submitting your changes. You can do the same thing when creating a post.

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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 05/25/2007 : 16:08:08

Bill,
Another tip about posting pictures.
Change the "Format Mode:" from "Basic" to "Prompt", then when you click the icons, the pop-up screen will prompt you for the URL.
It much easier and I always use it.

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 05/25/2007 : 20:21:11

That's an . . . unusual. . . rigging setup. It looks to me as though the backstay adjuster tackle is pulling it to one side. It also looks as though there are double mainsheets -- not a bridle, as some folks have, but something almost like having running backstays, so that both sheets have to be adjusted separately. Or am I not seeing this correctly?

What would be the reason for/advantage of a setup like that?

Brooke

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Captain Bill
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Response Posted - 05/26/2007 : 10:24:47

Dave, I think that would be an improvement. I'll take a look at it moving it to the port side this weekend. Thanks.

Thanks to all for the picture clarification. It's much easier than what I was doing.

Brooke, apparently the rigging set up is unusual and makes things more complicated but at least the traveller is out of the way. The PO did that. Let's see what responses we get.

Thanks to all for your suggestions,

Bill

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Response Posted - 05/27/2007 : 12:18:53

That double-mainsheet arrangement (evidenced by the two colors of lines) might be no more complicated than a traveler (if it's used)... Instead of repositioning the traveler on a tack, you just release one sheet and trim the other. Which is which depends on the strength of the breeze.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 05/29/2007 : 20:50:49

I've only seen that double-mainsheet arrangemetn once and that was exactly how it was used Dave. It would slow down a spill the wind situation a bit though.

sten

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megrier
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Response Posted - 07/09/2007 : 15:01:39

Well ... I have received and installed my stern perch seats. They went right on and they fit perfectly. I do have to squeeze through to push the starter button but it is not bad. My engine is linked to my rudder so I have no problem steering either.

One intersting thing about them is that they seem to provide much more room for people in the cockpit and everyone wants to sit in them.

Pricy though.

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Captain Bill
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Response Posted - 07/09/2007 : 20:54:57

Greg,

You'll enjoy the seats. Gives a great view. I wouldn't do without them. Just curious, where did you get them (in case I need a replacement)?

Bill

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megrier
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Response Posted - 07/10/2007 : 19:53:02

Bill,
I found them on sail2000.com

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