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 Tiller Tamer vs. others
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KenDavis
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Initially Posted - 05/30/2007 :  12:09:48  Show Profile

So I'm disappointed in my line across stern rails to cleat on tiller method.

Tiller Tamer is reasonably priced, the Catalina Direct version is about twice that.

What do you folks use, and how do you like it?

thanks!

C25 87 SR/WK
ANABELLA
Pensacola Fl

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gbeardjr
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  13:25:29  Show Profile
I purchased the tiller tamer last year. It works okay for sailing upwind but is otherwise useless. If you truly want to be free of the tiller you need an autopilot. I can't believe I waited so long to get one.

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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  15:16:07  Show Profile
Ken,

I have a "Can-Sail" device which works like a tiller tamer that I have not installed yet.

But since I also have a Forespar tiller extender, I am thinking of NOT installing the Can-sail, and instead installing a "socket" for the other end of the tiller extension that would hold the tiller for me. This would make for less crap on the tiller.

I am not looking for holding a course for long, I just want to be able to let go of the tiller for a few seconds to do something else.

I plan to install an autopilot a bit later when I have the boat units.

Just something to add to your thinking.

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KenDavis
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  15:45:54  Show Profile
I've used an autopilot on a fishing boat, and it was great. It had a remote for adjustments to heading. Cool, but expensive. I think it was $1000 or more.

something different available for sailboats?

I resemble the derogative comment about sailors, "..cheap bastards think the wind is free and everything else should be too."

thanks for the advice,
Ken

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gbeardjr
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  16:38:01  Show Profile
My TP 10 autopilot was about $350.00 online. It was not cheap buts its like having someone to sail with everytime I go out.

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newell
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  17:00:40  Show Profile
I have a electronic autopilot ST1000......one of the best purchases I ever made!

newell

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  18:19:03  Show Profile
Ken,

I'm not sure if your boat has the hasps on the cockpit lockers like the earlier models, but if it does, you might try using a bungee cord as a tiller tamer. Just hook the bungee in one hasp, then wrap the bungee around the tiller enough times to make it tight, then hook it in the opposite hasp. Twisting the wraps on the tiller will allow you to fine tune the tiller position.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  23:10:29  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
If you want an extra sailor you need an autopilot, if you're looking for a few seconds the tiller tamer is good. Even though I generally only need the seconds, after the reviews on the autopilot I'm going to look in to it! thanks as always guys for great info!

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KenDavis
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Response Posted - 05/31/2007 :  10:33:49  Show Profile
I'll try the bungee trick this weekend. Thanks Don!

Both the mentioned autopilots are avail for less than $400. That seems pretty reasonable for the utility.

This forum is GREAT, thanks for the good advice.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/31/2007 :  11:19:04  Show Profile
A nice feature with the bungee is that not only can you adjust for a steady course as Don describes, but you can make small, quick changes just by pushing the tiller--the bungee stretches and then re-centers. Just set up the bungee so there's a fair amount of tension.

I had the fuel locker with no hasp, so I used the stern cleats. That way, to engage the bungee, I pulled the wraps forward on the tiller to tension the cord--to disengage, I pushed them back to relax it.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 05/31/2007 :  22:50:28  Show Profile
Long bungee cord here... between the cleats. I've used a tiller tamer before and IMHO the bungee works just as well.

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haley
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Response Posted - 06/01/2007 :  14:13:08  Show Profile
I have the Tiller Tamer but after using a bungee never installed it. I like the easy "override" with the bungee.

John
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Rochester NY

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