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OLarryR
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Initially Posted - 06/12/2007 : 05:32:09

I know I should not have started a project once the sailing season came into full swing. I sail all year but the cooler months is when i get most of my hobby, etc projects completed. I started a late project building a breakdown port side bunk extension and now i am into one of these balancing acts between sailing, working on the project and trying to get other things non-sailboat related worked on. It's a struggle ! I wanted to get an extension done to the port side bunk because my wife found the seat narrow to sleep on (I was in the quarterberth area the one time we slept overnight).

The port side seat is short but with an extension, it then makes that side preferable with an extension so that it keeps the areaway clear to access the potti and the VBerth area. At the rate I am accomplishing this task and with other things to do plus some big vacations this year, figure i will not get this completed till the ....gulp...the fall ?

Anyone eles in this situation ? Not totally bad...I am sailing each week ! Yesterday, was a beautiful night !

By the way...out ran the Godspeed or...maybe it was one of the sister ships last Saturday ! They had a whole bunch of people onboard and they were eyeing our tunafish sandwiches as we past them. Then they came zooming by us...with sails down ! I guess it is not an exact replica ? Don't thgink they had an inboard engine back in those days !

Larry
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/12/2007 : 06:44:50

I think during sailing season we are all struggling to complete projects. My list started with 22 items. I checked off 5 and added 9. Completed another one but found 3 more. It's just not the right season.

As for the Godspeed - most of those ships have been retro-fitted with Iron Genoa's in order to keep the tight engagement schedule they have.

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Justin
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Response Posted - 06/12/2007 : 08:06:53

Larry,

Yes, I’m stuck doing so many projects. I could not get hauled out to begin my many much needed projects until early spring, but I was laid off my job and unemployed for over a month, so that delayed things even further. As soon as I started my new job in early May, I had my boat hauled out so I could get things started. Here she is on the hard:

I originally thought I had 2-3 weekends’ worth of work. I was wrong, it’s been 5 weekends thus far and I probably have 2-3 more to go. I sure hope not longer than that! One of the biggest issues is waiting for parts, either wrong ones being sent and having to wait or items being on back order. Then also things don’t go as planned and I find something else wrong. I am so anxious to get back in the water and sail my C-25 again. I have been very fortunate to receive so much help from Dave (Bubba on the forum) with my projects and have been able to go sailing with him on his C-250 so I can still get in some sailing time. If it wasn’t for Dave, I would be much further behind and I’m sure I would have a harder time learning everything completely on my own. Thank you so much Dave!

-Install and rewire new bow light (Done)
-Change outboard oils and water pump (Done)
-Install mast gates (Done)
-Create 2nd battery mount (Done)
-Install battery meter and 12v accessory outlet (Done)
-Remove old boat name (Done)
-Replace all swing keel hardware (create 2x4 frame to support keel, install new keel cable, winch, turning ball, hose, keel pin, grind down new castings to size, bore out pin hole, insert new bushing (only thing left). It has been lots of work but it is completed except for the bushing that I’m waiting for from the factory. (Almost done)
-Re-plumb the head, just need to connect the pump out hose and install a new deck fitting. (Almost done)
-Install new bow stem fitting/anchor roller, started and finished most this past weekend. Just need to tighten down the bolts, bend tang down and bolt it, and reattach the headstay. (Almost done)
-Seal off overboard thru-hull, I have a bronze cap, but it isn’t threading on smoothly. I’m working on this still.
-Repair crack in hull bottom, will start this weekend.
-Remove faded pin stripes (1/3 the way done, it’s a lot of work removing the adhesive. Goo Gone is a big help.
-Wash, put on new name and stripes, touch up paint, polish will be done right before I put her back in the water. Touch up paint is on back order.

I’ll then be able to enjoy some sailing, but projects that I’ll be doing soon once in the water will be rewiring the mast, installing new anchor and deck/steaming lights, new mast deck plug wiring, a new functional topping lift and outhaul, repair galley faucet and connect up new hoses to water tank (some are already routed), install solar panel, stereo, and I’m sure there will be more to come.

Wow! That is a lot of projects, but once completed my C-25 will be much safer and enjoyable. Last year all I could do were day sails, which were a lot of fun, but I really want to try some weekend cruising. I couldn’t really do that without my lights working or a very functional head. I also wanted all new swing keel hardware and it was really needed. The rest of the season and my future seasons will be even better than last years, I can’t wait!

(Edit: I just updated my list to show my progress. I have gotten a lot done so far.)

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 06/12/2007 : 11:09:26

sitting in the garage:
- new battery charger, waiting to be installed
- all the external teak waiting to be refinished
- bulkhead between q-berth and engine, waiting to be repaired

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/12/2007 : 11:46:51

Anything that would prevent us from sailing I do off-season. The boat is tarped over creating a tent-like area inside that lets me work all year. During sailing season I focus on rigging, instruments, and comfort items. Right now I am working to devise a fold away seat for above the fuel locker. I love the wheel steering but am getting tired of standing. I am also fighting off the temptaion to sell my Honda 9.9 and get the Tohatsu 9.8 extra long shaft. My guess is that I will lose the fight.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 06/12/2007 : 12:10:29

Justin,

That is quite a list ! Some of those projects, it is easy to see that they lend themselves to unknown issues that could delay a launch - The rewiring of the mast and replacing lighting fixtures is one of them. I wnet thru this the other year but had a guy doing most of the mast work and new support mount for the LED Anchor light and wind indicator. Even so, he got burnt out on the job which was done with the boat in the water. I then completed the project during the winter replacing the inside wiring to the mast, deck connector and wiring to a new switch panel I added transferring most circuits to it.

If you get half of your projects completed during the next month, I would say you have done quite an accomplishment.

I can't help bu tthink of the boats we all are aware of in our marinas that ...may be in the water but never leave the dock. Right opposite my finger slip on same dock is another sailboat and it did not leave the dock last year and so far doubtful for this year. The fellow was working on his graduate degree and...well he must have other things to do. he is rarely down on the boat. I saw the insides one time and ..well it needs a lot of work.

You boat looks like it is in very good condition. Some of your projects are probably necessities..especially for night sailing. But some of the others...I would forgo for now and restart in November.

Larry

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Justin
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Response Posted - 06/12/2007 : 13:11:52

I just reorganized my list and added the status. Yeah there are some people in my marina that I talked with that were saying how they spent their first years doing so much work and rarely if ever even got to take their's out. I figured last year I got to enjoy my boat a lot and learned so much about sailing. Ideally it would have been best if I started my projects in the winter, but I couldn't afford to haul out and pay for the entire winter (required). So I had to wait until spring when they had space in the yard, but then having no job really hurt things. Now I'm spending every weekend out there, trying to get as much done as possible, but then running into other issues. One month from now, I should be looking back at how much all this hard work has paid off. I'm really looking forward to sailing, anchoring out, relaxing on my boat, and spending entire weekends out there. That was something I didn't really get to do last year. I also have many people I want to take sailing, but I can't until I finish. It's a lot of work and money now, but soon it will be a lot of fun, relaxing, and expenses will taper way off.

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bbriner
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Response Posted - 06/12/2007 : 14:20:53

After my rudder broke off I had some unplanned project work that couldn't be delayed if I wanted to sail again: remove and install new gudgeons and remove and install new Pintles (with all new fasteners). The rudder had been slightly damaged by the O/B propeller so I needed to repair that too. While doing so I went to the local boatyard and the owner/boatbuilder saw that my rudder had a crack in it - which I hadn't even noticed. He suggested glassing over the leading edge and bottom. So I had to remove all the old bottom paint, lay glass along those edges, sand smooth, paint with 2-part epoxy paint, and then repaint with bottom paint. So this project will take 2.5 weeks (I think - I'm not done yet). This is after repairing the lower gudgeon after a bolt sheared off (1 weekend). That was after installing new cabin-top deck hardware to bring lines aft and replace halyards (2 weekends). Last year I had only 2 headsails but since then I've added 3 more and so far this sailing season I've only been able to sail about half the time!! Argh!! The teak will just have to wait.

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 06/12/2007 : 20:07:13

I have to replace my burned out stern light bulb. Hope I can find the time.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/12/2007 : 20:34:01

Bubba, don't get smug or Neptune may reach up and grab the lens cover while you change the bulb!

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 06/13/2007 : 19:29:07

I've donated enough tools to the deep. So, I hope my dues are paid up. But that was another post. . .

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djn
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Response Posted - 06/13/2007 : 20:55:47

We are driving up north Canada this weekend to seal the deal on our new/old boat and I am sure there will be years of project with that one....and I am looking forward to them. I'll post pics when we get back. Cheers.

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Jefffriday
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Response Posted - 06/16/2007 : 05:56:20

I can totally relate to the frustrations but just keep at it. I fially got into the water two days ago, but the list is not even close to done. She really looks good now just the little stuff to go

Done:
1 sand and repaint bottom with VC17M extra (lots of barnacles to remove)
2 wet sand topsides and 6 coats of Poliglow, scrub decks and cockpit with sofscrub w/bleach (thanks guys, the stuff is amazing)
3 refinish all the teak
4 strip, repaint the mast, boom, spreader tubes with oyster white Awlgrip, new sheves and halyards. (painted the trailer wheels while I was at it) new wiring, lights
5 new standing rigging, new lifelines
6 new rudder gudgeon, tiller
7 sails reconditioned by sailcare
8 new running rigging (staset and stasetX)
9 Pulled all the interior and soft scrubbed with bleach everything.
10 Removed head and all associated nasty parts, tank etc, installed Sanipotty
11 refinished interior teak
12 new fluids for the Tohatsu, plugs etc.
13 new stereo and speakers, battery, solar charger, lights, (have not tackled the instruments yet, none were working, speed, depth, apparent wind and speed indicator)

Now just a bunch of little stuff, But we are sailing ! It has been a really fun project so far, I could not be happier with the results, just keep plugging away at the list and all will be well... I did forget to put the wind indicator on the mast before raising... oops

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 06/16/2007 : 06:39:38

Jeff - You also have...correction..had quite a list to do !

Curious how the replacement of standing rigging went. Did you get the rigging from Catalina Direct ? Was it a perfect replacement or did you have to make any major adjustments ? Did you replace the rigging because you saw evidence of deterioration on the old rigging...or just decided it was time after...17+ years ?

My thought is that I may get new sails end of this year and possibly replace the rigging the next year. (Last year, the big projects were the solar panel, outboard motor bracket and new motor. This past year it was mast and cabin rewiring, hard wired the battery charger and installed new circuitbreaker switch panel.)

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bbriner
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Response Posted - 06/16/2007 : 09:16:49

I'll butt in on the question regarding standing rigging... I replaced mine 2yrs ago with the CD replacement kit. Everything fit perfectly. No problems, no adjustments. I will say though that I did it purely because the original rigging was still on the boat and I felt it was time. When I was removing the old rigging some of the wire strands started 'unwinding' as I loosened the turnbuckles and rust started coming out ... not just a little either. On the outside they looked fine. As a result, I must recommend that if your original rigging is still there after 15 years... replace it before everything comes crashing down!

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/16/2007 : 10:48:56

I used the CD standing rigging kit on my C22 and the kit was wonderful. Fit perfectly and had all the parts. I recommend CD.

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saribella
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Response Posted - 06/16/2007 : 12:38:46

Struggling is an understatement............

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bbriner
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Response Posted - 06/18/2007 : 09:27:53

WRT my note above about the rudder. It is taking a long time to complete this project. I had completed glassing over the bottom part and had put the rudder in the back of the car. We had a heat wave and when I pulled the rudder out I noticed a hairline crack at the joint all around the top part. As a result I had to glass over all around the edges of the top part too. After the glass I used a 3M Filler to allow a smooth surface. Now I have a lot more sanding to do...

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Jefffriday
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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 09:53:23

All the CD rigging fit perfectly, they did have me measure the backstay, apparently there are some differences. My boat had been in salt water and looked like original rigging, no loose wires but it looked bad. I really wanted to know where I was at...

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Justin
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Response Posted - 06/25/2007 : 08:23:09

An update:
This past weekend I completed all my current out of water projects! My Sapphire Breeze will be put in the water this week and I will be sailing this weekend! I am so excited; all this hard work is paying off. Definitely a big thanks to Dave (Bubba forum sn) for all his help with my major projects!
Some of my final projects yesterday were to wash and polish. Here are a couple photos of her all ready for the water:

I have a few more projects to complete, but in the mean time I can go ahead and sail and complete them in the near future.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/25/2007 : 08:49:47

Jeez, that is a sharp looking hull color! I saw a couple of larger power boats this past weekend with that same midnight blue colored hull and they were sharp looking...very regal.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 06/25/2007 : 12:28:12

Justin,

You did finish quickly considering your list ! Have a great time sailing !

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