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delliottg
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Initially Posted - 06/25/2007 :  13:48:27  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Rita & I decided we'd probably sail more if we didn't have to go through the 4-5 hours of rigging, launching, recovering & de-rigging for each sail. We started looking around for a marina we could get into, which are as rare as hen's teeth in the Seattle area. We found one place about 5-6 miles up the Duwamish River, but while it had a waiting list of maybe only a couple of months, the marina was full of derelicts, literally rotting away. There were boats in that marina that I wouldn't have boarded, much less gone out in. Anyway, we kept looking, and finally a friend told me about the marina next to his, a co-op, that he thought might have a slot for us. It turned out they had a 30' slip, but the manager wanted to put a smaller boat in there to give the Formosa 40 next to it room to maneuver. You can see what I'm talking about [url="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&t=k&om=1&hl=en&msa=0&ll=47.570297,-122.350378&spn=0.001388,0.002511&z=19&msid=113410289865331465424.000001136417780cb2a5c"]here[/url]. The nice thing about the slip is that it's right at the foot of the ramp. The not so nice thing is that it's a downstream slip with only about 14' of width to work with, and a restricted opening to get there. The Formosa is downstream of me, so I'm a bit worried about my approach, at least the first couple of times. I'll make sure I'm coming in at slack tide, or even a at flood so that'll help negate the affects of the river current.

I'm looking forward to getting the boat into the marina, and I'm really looking forward to watching the Formosa come in and out. Apparently the owner is quite skilled, he must be to get in there, especially with the previous boat being a thirty footer (no room at the end of the pier, I think it's the one in the picture).

David
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Sirius Lepak
1997 C-250 WK TR #271 --Seattle area Port Captain --

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/25/2007 :  14:16:05  Show Profile
Jump on it! The Formosa will have much more maneuvering room (which is good for you), and you'll <i>love</i> being in the water. It appears to me you might want to just back all the way down the fairway when leaving your slip. (That takes a steady hand on the tiller.) For coming in with the current (as you will undoubtedly have to do some day), I'll suggest that you leave a short springline at the end of the finger dock, just long enough to reach your winch as you're entering the slip, and use it to pivot the boat around the corner. (A midship cleat would be even better.) With the engine pushing the stern to port, the boat will hold against the starboard finger until you get a bow line on. Then move as far forward as possible and set a BIG fender on your port stern cleat!

And if you have an anchor on a bow roller, you might want to rethink that!

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 06/25/2007 14:24:14
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/25/2007 :  15:30:53  Show Profile
Congratulations! A spring line will be perfect for you.

Another option would be to mount rollers vertically along your port side and bow. Then you could simply hit the Formosa and roll into your slip.

A spring line would be better.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 06/25/2007 :  15:46:39  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
We already signed the papers yesterday, we could put in today if we wanted to, but I've got several projects I want to finish up first, including a hard link for my rudder/engine. I want to be able to easily steer in the fairway. It's about 40' wide or so, and ideally I'd like to be able to pirouette right at the end by my slip so I don't have to back out like you suggested, but I'll save that learning experience for later. According to the manager, that's exactly what the Formosa does.

I'm going to be ordering the Garhauer mid-ship cleats today, and will be making up one of Randy's patented docking lines so we can do the pivot on the cleat operation you mentioned.

One of the things I like best about the marina is that it appears very active, I've already been introduced to half a dozen folks and I haven't been there all that long. The manager even remembered the name of my dog when I came by yesterday. There are a few not-quite-derelict boats, but most look like they're in good shape, and I didn't see a single boat that was out of registration.

I've got a bow roller, but it hasn't been installed yet either. I found a guy that had a brand new AR-3 he only wanted $55 for a couple of weeks back, but I haven't had time to install it yet, and probably won't before we head to the marina.


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delliottg
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Response Posted - 06/25/2007 :  16:25:58  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Here's a couple of pictures:






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Response Posted - 06/25/2007 :  16:28:24  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/25/2007 :  16:45:50  Show Profile
Another item that might help make that pivot when the current is flowing out (pushing you into the finger) is a corner dock wheel...



...if the marina will let you install it. (I think I see two across from your slip.) I just got one.

When it's flowing in (toward the Formosa) is when I think you'll find backing out easier. There will be much less time and room to do your pirouette.

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 06/25/2007 16:49:26
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