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britinusa
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Initially Posted - 06/25/2007 : 22:13:13

Totally impressed by the comment made <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Can I sail it away? Can any upgrades or repairs wait until the off-season?
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I recall the first boat I purchased in England around 1972. 14.5' cabin daysailer, plywood. Spent $1200 (600 UK Pounds). Put down the deposit on it that night (rule #1 don't buy a boat at night

) Went back at the weekend to sail the boat 6 miles to a public mooring field. My eldest son (he was 3 years old) wore his life jacket (rule #2 don't take a child on your first trip) (remember, I was age 23, a dad, husband, navy sailor and probably as dumb as they come!)
My knowledge about boat ownership - zero or less. But I did really get to enjoy sailing that little boat. Were I there today I would not have gone near it! Less than a year in my care and I found why the boat was always 'wet' around the swing keel - the ply keel box was rotten and so was the hull around it.
Then the Navy decided it was time to move on and I started a period of frequent moves around the UK and on the briny stuff. So the boat had to go, don't know if the guy that bought it ever repaired it or if he just dumped it and kept the outboard.

It took another 23 years before I (we) took the plunge and purchased JD, 'our' first boat (don't count the laser dinghy). I'm certain we made a good decision, and every photograph/video we see of us on our boat brings smiles if not outright laughter (If you could see some of them we dare not publish, then you'd laugh too!) every trip we make reinforces the pleasure we get from all the work we put into her.

One of the most appreciated aspects of owning JD is this forum, we both read it but Peggy leaves me to post. It has been a great way to meet fellow owners, discuss project and sailing techniques and trips. We have even met with a few, and all of this is part of owning a boat: Being a part of a great community.
<hr noshade size="1">So I wondered, what was your first boat, where and when?<hr noshade size="1">

Paul.

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PO C250WB 2005 Sail # 841.

Moved up to C34 Eximius

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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 06/25/2007 : 23:30:20

Mine was a Finn, #49.

Learned very quickly what a deck sweeper boom could do. Partnered with a friend for $50 and it had a trailer.

After much practice and races with my Scout kids, anyone who could beat me got a milkshake. A very good boat that could almost sail the lubber line.

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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 06/25/2007 : 23:31:44

Oh, the year was 1968.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/25/2007 : 23:41:27

Sweetcraft are you on the road? Do you need a place to stay in Eugene?

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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 06/26/2007 : 01:09:43

Leaving Wednesday and no plans where to anchor. Would be interesting to meet and compare trailers. I will get some of the pictures on the Forum tomorrow of the completed project. Location? Thanks.

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Response Posted - 06/26/2007 : 05:40:37

Paul,

I have some parts of past history similar to yours ..at least the taking a break for some 20+ years or so and Navy involvement as well. I moved from Long Island, New York to Virginia when I switched jobs and with one kid to be born in a month and family and friends to travel back to visit, I gave up boating for...well it turns out to be from 1985 to 2005.

I used a friend's 13' Flying Junior for many years. I was the mate in the beginning and learned the ropes. Then when my friend went away to college (I went locally to college), his family would put the boat in for each season but I made most of the use, especially when my friend did not come back home for the summers...for years. After college and first job started, I bought a brand new 13' Banshee (similar to a Laser). So...I had no used boat issues to square away and the maintenance on a small trailered boat is pretty much non-existent except i remember making for me what was a big decision back in those days - cutting a square hole in the bottom of my new boat to install a self-bailer.

It was the next boat that really gave me my first real inkling of dealing with a used boat and the issues that need to be resolved. That was a boat built from a kit which I bought second hand - A Luger 16. One of the first things I learned was the importance of a reliable motor and how a painted steel centerboard gets coated with barnacles and rusts each year pretty much no matter how you treat it. At least back in those days....and I was on a learning track.

I would say it is the starting with small boats and small problems/resolutions that builds on one's experience base and somewhat helps prepare one for bigger boat purchases and dealing with the unforeseen issues that pop up with a used boat buy. But even having this experience, there are always addl things that can bite you that you are not prepared for and so I think it is trying to assess what you do know about a boat from what you don't know. Also, what needs to be done initially (for safety, performance and reliability) and what can be done at later, more opportune times.

Another important consideration, at least for me, was realizing that the use of the boat was pretty much proportionate to the distance it was away from my house/work. The more frewquent I could visit the boat without it being a hardhsip, time-wise, then the more time for sailing and attending to maintenance/improvements.

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Response Posted - 06/26/2007 : 08:27:14

I spent the last 30 years fantasizing about every possible kind of sailboat. Finally took a couple of "learn to sail" vacations while stationed in Germany in the mid-90's. Spent a few weeks on C25's in Chiemsee in Bavaria. (Southeast of Munich). Continued the fantasy sails after that until....

Last fall I got a great deal on an O'Day Daysailer. Sailed it a few times and realized that it was not nearly enough boat for the lake it was on. We bought Kaija this past winter. I'm loving it.

The O'Day is available.

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Response Posted - 06/26/2007 : 09:57:06

...another O'Day Daysailer II owner (past), bashing around on Long Island Sound for 21 years...

But my first boat was a Sailfish-type I built by myself in about '56, at the age of 12, from plans in a magazine--white pine sides and frame, masonite deck and bottom (glassed around the edges), pine daggerboard, wood and galvanized sheet-steel rudder, and a canvas sail (sewn by my mother) on two bamboo spars for a lateen rig. My calculations for getting it out of the basement were a bit faulty--my dad removed a post to resolve that. It actually sailed, but you had to keep that canvas sail dry or the righting moment was negative! I learned a huge amount on that boat, and even figured out how to back out of irons by reversing the rudder and pushing the boom over to backwind the sail--that came in handy later on some catamarans... After two lake vacations in Michigan, the frame warped and the whole hull twisted... The cremation came quickly.

Later came a Sunfish (my favorite to sail), Daysailer, and C-25...

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Response Posted - 06/26/2007 : 09:59:08

I had never been to a lake until I was 32; 1982 a friend asked me to go sailing on Lake Hephner in Oklahoma City. He had a Flying Junior and told me to simply sheet in when told to and sheet out when told to; I was in charge of the jib! We drove home to Wichita and I looked in the paper and there was a nearly new Tanzer 16 for sale, Tanzers are Canadian and very nice boats. I also bought a book.

The book did not get me away from the dock, a nice fellow hopped on board and did that for me. I learned in that first summer of tent camping and sailing and becoming becalmed out in the lake and discovering the next cove over was filled with "big boats", (21'-30'), that I wanted a big boat. I sold the Tanzer and the tent and bought a used Spirit 23 by Glastron, that boat was perfect and everything I did to her was out of love, not necessity.

The Tanzer taught me to sail, small boats do that, the Spirit taught me to sail with others and introduced me to the community of sailing. I'm hooked.

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Response Posted - 06/26/2007 : 10:55:13

It was a'76 Catalina 22 named "Contention" bought in 1982 .... I was 22. Took vacations up and down the east coast of FL in 83, 84, and 85. Best vacations I ever had! Sold the boat and didn't own another one until Sept. of last year when I bought Bamboo. Back in the saddle and loving it!

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/26/2007 : 11:06:24

The Admiral and I took sailing lessons from the local Parks & Recreation department in about 1982. It was a blast and I wanted to get a boat but then came the baby

work

and the rest of life

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Then in 2000 some friends bought a Catalina 22. We sailed with them once. A week later we bought our C22. I regret that we didn't get a boat sooner but am glad we finally did it.

A few years later I started crewing on a Santana 20 for racing. I do mid-deck, mostly flying the spinnaker. This takes care of my "go fast" needs so the Admiral and I can just cruise on the C250. I have been hinting to her a bit about getting a Daysailer or Lido 14' so we could race together. Some interest but no bite yet.

We bought the 250 so that we'd have more interior room and a cruising capability so that we can get up into the San Juans which are 300 miles from here.

I love to sail and I love to work on the boat and trailer. The Admiral lets me buy stuff for the boat. I am one happy sailor.

Sweetcraft I am about 1 mile off I-5.

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Response Posted - 06/26/2007 : 11:51:43

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Totally impressed by the comment made
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Can I sail it away? Can any upgrades or repairs wait until the off-season?
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Thanx Paul....I learned to ask these questions the hard way. Was a partner with my older brother(he was 9 at the time) in a decrept plywood skiff that took two people to 'operate'. One to bail, the other to 'direct' the sheet of plywood that acted as a sail.
We pounded about 500 nails into that thing so that it would stay together. My first boat project. It promptly sank after being blown over to the far side of the lake. We were given up for drowned, by our sister.
We sailed that thing about a mile, to the far side of the lake, then had to walk about 10 miles to get home.
My next boat was purchased about ten years later.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 06/26/2007 : 17:54:39

My first sailing experience was in Grenada - I took out one of the hotel's sunfish and got stuck 100 yards offshore. A guy walking along the beach hollered at me "bring that thing in here". I yelled back"I would if I could". He replied "you are stalling your rudder - straighten the tiller". Lo and behold the darn thing started to move! I got to shore and he informed me "I am the Commodore of the Royal Calgary Yacht Squadron and I am going to teach you to sail!" He stayed on the beach and yelled instructions and I learned to handle a sunfish...

This was in 1971 and I didn't get to sail agin until I met Judy in 1988, she owned a 1971 Catalina 22.
Bravely, we started racing her and unfortunately sank her in Nov '91.
We bought our C25 in Feb '92 and have raced her ever since

I crewed on the winning boat in the 2000 Nationals and Judy & I crewed on the winning TR in '94. We trailered to Lake Cheney in '95 and won the TR fleet.
I'll always be grateful to that Commodore...

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 06/26/2007 : 18:17:48

1994, nine months after I moved to the Eastern Shore of Virginia, a friend sold me his 17' Mobjack racing sloop, which I had sailed several times when he kept it at a church camp. I owned the boat for four years before buying Even Chance, my 1985 SK/TR. I donated the Mobjack to the same camp, where my son used it to teach sailing several summers.

Brooke

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Response Posted - 06/26/2007 : 19:42:07

"Brandy" was my first sailboat, purchased while moored on Lake George in 2001. Did my own survey really no one else around other than the PO. Sailed Brandy the rest of the season in 2001 with advice
from Don Peet, Oscar and others. Took a weekend of lessons the next May on a Tanzer 22 on Lake George. My first experience with sailing was a one day jaunt in 1985 on a Catalina 25. A change of jobs present from a former co-worker.

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Response Posted - 06/26/2007 : 20:01:37

I grew up in a small fishing town on the NC coast, my play ground was the Cape Fear River. My family were all commercial fishermen and their family's before them. My first sailing attempt was with a old sheet stretched out on a pole in my dads gill net skiff, using an oar as rudder.

I had several small commercial fishing boats when I was young but none classified as a sailboat. Worked on shrimp boats, charter boats, snapper boats up and down the east coast and gulf, if it lived in the water we fished for it.

I decided there had to be a better way so I joined the Navy in 79 and it was after I retired that I got the itch for something other than a fishing boat. I bought my first sailboat, a 22' MacGregor in February 2003. Not knowing much about sailboats, she looked okay and was floating in her slip fine. Hey, what more can there be... I soon found out that the sails were for a venture 23 and were to big. Most of the running rigging had to be replaced, swing keel repair, etc. etc. After much reading and online research about Macs 22's I got her shipshape and began teaching myself how to sail.

The wife and I took the old Mac on the 2004 BEER cruise and after spending 2 days in the cabin in bad weather the wife decide that we needed a bigger boat.

I found Knotty Cat in the Swap Meet section of this forum in October 2004. Drove from Atlanta to Kansas to buy her.

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Response Posted - 06/27/2007 : 09:30:59

Paul: Was hooked on sailing after a few trips on a 38' Hans Christian, the Capt was devilish to infect me with such a beautiful boat. After reading and searching for almost a year I found a 14' AMF "Puffer" (sloop) in Harbor Springs, MI in 1985 and sailed her on the bay and car topped her on a Chevy G-10 van [definitely improved my upper body strength

]. Later found a snowmobile trailer when I moved to the Upper Pennisula (UP) of Michigan and built a cradle and dragged her behind the van to practically every lake (sometimes the coast of Superior) I could find in the UP to sail and camp on with the family till 1993 when I found "Trust Me" [5044 TR FK]. It was the best boat to prepare me for the Catalina because she was jib and main and positive floatation. If I made a mistake she quickly responded with a tip or swinging boom. Sold her to a young family who completed a local sailing school in 1996.

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Response Posted - 06/27/2007 : 09:35:35

My first experience sailing was on Sunfish at Naval Station Orlando. I was waiting for orders and had little else to do, and sailing always intrigued me, so I wandered down to Lake Suzanne and rented a Sunfish figuring "how hard could it be?". Dozens and dozens of capsizes later I graduated to Dolphins. Eventually I ended up in San Diego where a friend took me out on his Hobie 16 on Mission Bay, then after an hour or so let me take it out solo while he picnicked on the beach with his family. I was hooked, but wouldn't actually get my own boat for several more years. I moved to Washington in the early 90's and traded an old truck for a Macgregor catamaran, and started racing it on American Lake, and crewing on my friends Capri 25 in more formal races. Eventually I ended up crewing on a J92 and occasionally a Swan 46. I sailed my catamaran for years, then sold it to a friend of a friend, and bought another friend's San Juan 21 (which is for sale). I just recently noticed the catamaran for sale on Craigslist, at least I'm pretty sure it was my old boat. I mostly singlehanded the San Juan till last year when we decided to move up to a boat you could actually stand up inside of. We found our 250 WK down in Bend OR. It's Tony Partain's old boat, which won the 2004 Nationals. We've only had it out a few times, and we're still ironing out wrinkles, but it's a great boat, it was well taken care of before us, and we expect a number of years of pleasure from it.

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Response Posted - 06/27/2007 : 11:57:17

My first sailboat, a 25' Venture, was bought on a whim in 1995 during one cold Michigan January when sailing is about the furthest from one's mind. It was one of those deals where I'd never sailed before, but it was something I'd always wanted to do. Anyway, an office buddy of mine casually mentioned that he had a friend who was was moving out of state for a job opportunity and he had a sailboat that he needed to unload. I had my friend call him asking the usual questions like what kind of boat, how much, etc. The following week I made arrangements to go look at it and after checking it over for about an hour, I made the deal and we hooked it up to my brothers truck and towed it home. When we got it home, I did one of those, "Hey honey, look what we own" things to my wife who's response was something like, "Oh my god!".

From the time I brought it home until I splashed it in April, I read everything I could about sailing, since my experience with sailing was less than zero, and I practiced dry runs with the mast up in my backyard. The neighbors must have thought something was quite odd upon seeing a sailboat with full sails hoisted in my backyard. The day I put it in the water, I conscripted my brother, also a nonsailor, to go with me and with checklist in hand, we proceeded to set sails. That first sail went rather smoothly and from that moment on, I was irrevocably hooked.

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Response Posted - 06/29/2007 : 13:45:54

When I was a kid, my family went to the same place in the Poconos for a vacation each summer. One year, my friends and I, discovered an old sailboat that had come loose from the dock, drifted over against the bank and slowly sank. We hauled it out in the lake and used it as a swimming barge. One day a neighbor, a WW II veteran who had lost an arm, said that if we could get the sails, rudder, etc, he would teach us to sail. We did and he did, and I was hooked. Still don't recall how he sailed with one arm. Anyway, this lead to my first sailboat. So, at the age of about 14, I convinced my Dad (he was a fisherman without much use for sailors) that I really needed an 11' Moth that was for sale close to our summer retreat. After I agreed to pay for part of it, he agreed, and we made a round trip of nearly 450 miles...a long way with few interstates, to pick up the boat. It cost the outrageous sum of $125 (complete) and we carried it home on a roof top carrier.

I just wish my Dad was alive today to see my Catalina 320...although he'd probably have a heart attack when he saw what these things now cost! I just ordered one cabin door and three hatch screens...that cost twice the entire cost of the Moth.

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Response Posted - 05/24/2008 : 04:31:25

This caught my eye, and seems worthy of bumping up for more input.

I think that my first boat was an AMF Puffer (12.5' LOA, I think) which was a blast. I bought this boat around 1980 and mostly sailed it on the Willamette River near Portland, Oregon and on that big lake near Eugene, Oregon.

Actually, now that I think about it, I had a Snark ($400 new at the local sporting goods store) for one summer before the Puffer. The Snark was really a poor quality toy, but it sorta sailed.

Then there were a few years of windsurfing and a Hobie 14 Turbo (added a jib). I think that I quit sailing around 1990.

Around 1997 or 1998 I tried windsurfing again, but we sold all the equipment after 2-3 summers. Windsurfing was too hard on my wife's back, so we never really enjoyed it together and eventually faded out of sailing again.

Around 2003, we bought a 1991 Catalina Capri 16. It was flawless and included a trailer and outboard engine for only $3,500. We sailed this boat on Lake Almanor (N. California) for two summers and we fell in love with small boat "lake cruising". We sold the C-16 in the summer of 2005.

Health and financial issues kept me out of boats until the spring of 2007, when I bought a brand-new C-18. We sailed this boat all over Lake Tahoe during the summer of 2007 and realized that we needed a much larger boat for multi-day trips on the big lake.

Luckily, we sold the 2007 C-18 this spring for just about what we paid for it. C-18 prices had dramatically changed over the past year, and the new owner was thrilled to get our boat in 2008 for the 2007 price. It was win-win.

Now we've really moved up. Our 2008 C-250wk arrived in May 2008, and we're hoping to get her into the water in mid June of 2008. We're REALLY looking forward to spending lots of time on Lake Tahoe in the new boat.

There you have it. I'm looking forward to reading others' boat lineage, too.

Martin

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Response Posted - 05/24/2008 : 09:15:19

The first boat I owned (Capri 16') purchased from my brother in law in 2000 who bought her new. He took great care of it and I sailed it for a couple of years until foot-itis set in.
I kept the Capri on a lake in north GA for a while, but when I towed it to Hilton Head SC and sailed it on the ICW that first day with nice steady winds and dolphins swimming all around the boat ... well, that was it. The Capri never went back to the lake in north GA.
My first sailing experience was on a sunfish with my uncle around 1960 at the outer banks (NC). I was a kid.
When I was a teenager (18?), I visited my other uncle in Naples FL and sailed his sunfish in the canals or ICW. This was the first time I sailed by myself, no-one told me how, I just by trial and error realized sometimes you moved and sometimes you didn't and repeated what made me go. It was 30 years later that I bought the Capri. (In the interim I rented hobie's when vacatioing at the beach.)
What's next? The admiral says I should consider a larger boat. Well, all righty then.
Head room will be nice, as will the diesel. And air conditioning.

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Response Posted - 05/24/2008 : 10:00:20

Good bump--the thread is a nice re-read! Tom Potter's start reminds me of mine in a flat-bottomed rowboat at about 8 years old on White Lake in MI where we vacationed... My dad made some pine leeboards, set up a bedsheet square rig with halyard and sheets, and put an oarlock on the transom. He'd tow me about two miles upwind and go back to the cottage, and I'd zigzag home, from broad reach to broad reach--in love with the wind! That led to building my sailfish so I could sail upwind--no towing.

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Response Posted - 05/24/2008 : 10:20:53

In the 70's went to Shady Deal Loan Company and borrowed more than we could afford to buy an 18' daysailer. Had never been on a sailboat,but delved into books to learn how. "Savvy" was solid for her size with a large cockpit and cuddy cabin. Wish I knew the make because I'd love to see one again. The retired fellow i sold it to called me back to say he figured out why she was so stable - as he said, she was "full of water". I never noticed, but I guess proves water ballast can work..

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Response Posted - 05/24/2008 : 14:53:04

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ddlyle
 The first boat I owned (Capri 16') purchased ...[edited]... It was 30 years later that I bought the Capri. ...[edited]...
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In my humble opinion, the Capri-16 (the model with the very tiny cabin) is a fabulous boat. Easy to sail, great performance for her size, easy to tow, extremely stable and confidence inspiring for novice sailors, large comfortable cockpit, and a cozy cabin for a portable toilet + cooler + 2 sleeping bags. This was absolutely the best boat I could have imagined for introducing my wife to sailing, and it lead to the C-250 we now enjoy.

I'll bet you - as I do - sometimes wish you still had that little boat, huh? Thanks for the memories, Dave.

Martin

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Response Posted - 05/24/2008 : 15:04:32

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by OLarryR
 
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Another important consideration, at least for me, was realizing that the use of the boat was pretty much proportionate to the distance it was away from my house/work. The more frewquent I could visit the boat without it being a hardhsip, time-wise, then the more time for sailing and attending to maintenance/improvements.
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I wholeheartedly agree, Larry! I trailer-sailed the first few small sailboats I owned, and the hassles of trailering, battling boat ramps, rigging/unrigging, and on and on kept me away from many days of sailing.

Since we've moved up to "bigger" (16'+) boats, we've been renting a slip each summer. We've never been more than about 100 miles from whatever boat we've owned, and our C-250 is only about 25 miles from our home (and 5 miles from where I work). It's soooo darn convenient to go sailing after work or quickly plan weekend trips.

I know that many people are very good at quickly getting boats off/on trailers, but I'm just not up to this inconvenience any longer. Perhaps I'm getting old.

Martin

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