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tingwc
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Initially Posted - 06/29/2007 :  19:02:15  Show Profile
doesn't the rope from the boom vang get in the way of opening the pop-top? how does one get around this, other than detaching the boom vang at dock? am i doing something wrong? i feel like a bit of a chimp here.
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 06/29/2007 :  19:41:25  Show Profile
Get a snapshackle for the end of the vang (like you probably use on the jib halyard).
With one of those you can detach the vang in a couple seconds.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 06/29/2007 :  20:33:20  Show Profile
It's pretty tough to sail w/ the pop-top up and the vang in. You need to choose which is most important.

BTW - just wondering where in Queens do you keep your boat?
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/29/2007 :  21:05:25  Show Profile
If you sail with the poptop open and you get knocked over your boat will fill with water and sink like a rock. You should not sail with it open.
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tingwc
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Response Posted - 06/29/2007 :  21:43:50  Show Profile
guys, i think you mid-understood. i have no intention of sailing with the pop-top open. i just wanted to know how you guys get the pop-top open with the boom vang in. do you just press it against the mast, or do you take the vang off?

jerlim - i keep the boat at the marina in college point, on powell's cove road. i got a late start to the season because i had a lot going on at work, but i got in the water today.
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Don B
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Response Posted - 06/29/2007 :  22:08:40  Show Profile
Uncleat the vang sheet and provide plenty of slack...this should allow you to move the line aside enough to snug the pop-top up to the mast.
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ddlyle
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Response Posted - 06/29/2007 :  22:39:29  Show Profile  Visit ddlyle's Homepage
On my boat, I loosen the vang line from the rope clutch attached to the block, and then pull out all the line to push it around to the side of the mast.
With the line loosened and pushed off to the side, I can snug my pop-top up to the mast and secure it. Then when I want to sail, I lower the pop-top, tighten the vang a bit, and I'm ready to go.
The best method I've found to secure the pop-top up to the mast is a stout short bungee, from the top of the forward pop-top support down to the base of the mast. I also use the original screw-in little elbow that Catalina provided, but it ususally comes loose and drops down fairly soon.
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Douglas
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Response Posted - 06/29/2007 :  23:35:58  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
How about using a snap shackle and pad eye. Put a pad eye on the top of the pop top. Snap shackle on the lower end of the vang. Attach snap shakle to pad eye and pull and hold the pop top up. Bada Bing Bada Boom.
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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 06/30/2007 :  09:37:22  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Douglas</i>
<br />How about using a snap shackle and pad eye. Put a pad eye on the top of the pop top. Snap shackle on the lower end of the vang. Attach snap shakle to pad eye and pull and hold the pop top up. Bada Bing Bada Boom.
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When the poptop goes up, it also goes forward. The vang would pull it aft -- assuming that the padeye isn't attached to the sliding hood, which would be a very bad idea.

I have a snapshackle on the lower end of my vang, and release it when I'm putting the poptop up. It's important to get the vang line out from between the top and the mast, so it doesn't interfere with latching the top to the mast ( I have a tall rig, which means everything is also lower).

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Jmurfy
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 :  09:30:17  Show Profile
Good question. Thats the main reason I havent used my boom vang very much. When I'm at the dock I like to have the pop top open.
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DaveR
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Response Posted - 07/02/2007 :  10:19:37  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
I also have a snap shackle on the lower vang end and detach it from the lower eye and attach it to the upper vang eye on the boom. Gets it right out of the way! This is done only in very fair predictable conditions and in light winds it's not a danger to sail with the pop top up, I do it all the time, makes for a much cooler cabin when it's 95 degrees and a 5 to 7 kt. wind.
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stampeder
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Response Posted - 07/03/2007 :  23:18:54  Show Profile
I opened my pop-top three times this past weekend (Long weekend celebrating Canada Day - our 140th Birthday)

I have my boom vang routed same as my halyards: off to the right of the mast via blocks, and aft to a triple clutch on the cabin top just to the side of the pop-top.

All I do is flip up the clutch and loosen the boom vang - I push up on the pop-top and it loosens the boom vang. Simple, no need to unshackle anything.

I sailed on Monday afternoon under a gloriously blue sky with a light breeze - with jib only. I had the pop-top up - properly secured with dock line around mast and struts. When the wind piped up, I lowered the lid and raised the main.

If I haven't mentioned it lately, I love this boat.
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