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Ericson33
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Initially Posted - 07/01/2007 : 02:36:53

So yesterday I spent a good amount of boat units for the new iPhone
it took about 2hours to download the software and setup the new phone. After another hour of finding just how it works I am now searching the net,listening to my mp3files, ripping video DVDs to iTunes, and checking my emails all at the same time.

Anyone else turning towards a iPhone ?

Logged in and posted with one........:)

C.S. McKillip
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 02:46:07

I will get one as soon as the old model is available at MacMall for $199.-

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 07:22:17

Fun as it would be, I agree with Oscar.

Acording to Lt. Uhrua, we'll all have something like that.

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Paul.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 07:25:20

Naw, I want a telephone. I don't EVER want to be that connected. One of the reasons I sail.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 07:38:05

I hate apple products only just a little less than windows and consider ATT to be the devil's spawn. I want a cell phone that actually works consistently as a phone. There isn't one service provider in northern new england that is able to provide that yet.

But I hope you enjoy your new toy Chris just the same.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 09:08:28

I love Apple products, I revere AT&T (actually Southwestern Bell), as one of America's finest companies, connectivity allows me to be spontaneous, creative, informed, and effective. As soon as my contract with Verizon is up I will move to At&t and get an iphone; unfortunately that is 15 months away. Well done Chris, look for a lot of third party apps soon and more features to come; the Newton is back! (Can you hardly wait for the optical appliance so you can see the screen as large as you like in a heads up display?)
As for Apple, I only fear what will happen when Steve is gone, he is a psycho vegan but man he is a genius. Ultimately he may have changed the world more than Gates, Gates shipped products that broke the human spirit, Jobs shipped products that made the human spirit soar.

Edit- Sorry, I just can't help myself; TOY! the most powerful men on the planet live by their Blackberrys and the iphone just turned the Blackberry into a pet rock; that is no toy. Love ya anyway Rick.

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Jmurfy
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 09:26:33

Just dont let it fall overboard. I lost two cell phones and a Garmin Ique 3600 through water damage as well as my digital camera when I got careless and went overboard with this equipment in my pocket while docking.

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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 09:55:53

Lots of good feedback, i am a tech geek, this is why I sail, mess around with new equipment
and have fun doing it.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 11:37:51

I'm seeking out a Tattoo removal artist.. there is a tat 'Don't use AT&T' on the inside of my eyelid after getting crucially ripped off by them in 1997 (huge! over $600 for 2 weeks of cell phone on which I made less than a dozen calls!... long story) But then AT&T purchased cingular and bellsouth. And now they offer a better plan than MCI including business long distance. So I just signed a contract for 3 years with AT&T from late august.

As for apple products, they have looks, functionallity, sheer quality. But most of the world uses M-sucks, like me. The sad part is that apple/macs really don't run a fully compliant 'E' (eggsplorer) and every apple/mac that I have seen in use has one or another issue on some website. Now if there were a worldwide 'standard browser' compliance accord, then all browsers would behave the same and life would be good.

I have yet to find a user of apple/mac that had not drank heartily from the jug of coolaid

Paul

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 11:57:49

Frank wrote:

"Gates shipped products that broke the human spirit, Jobs shipped products that made the human spirit soar."

OK, Frank, settle down.

I use a Mac at home and a PC at work. Thay are very much alike. Apple does have superior design and styling and you pay for it when you purchase a Mac.

I think many young people would disagree that the Xbox breaks the human spirit.

The iPod was a great innovation as is iTunes. My daughter makes use of both with her Dell PC running WindowsXP.

When I get my next home computer it will be a PC laptop that I can take on the boat. Good luck finding nautical software for a Mac while there are many choices for a PC. Also, while Safari is nice, it is not nearly as good as the new Explorer.

To each his own although I must admit the iPhone is very sweeeeeeeet!

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 14:05:10

Comparing the Mac to the PC is like comparing a BMW to a Freightliner. Two different purposes. Mac has always been a closed system, totally controlled by Apple and, early on, useless for business purposes. The PC was created by IBM, given to Microsoft, Compaq, Dell, and others to embellish on, designed for everyone and his brother to turn into whatever their business needed, and yes, a little rough around the edges--too many cooks adding too many ingredients to the stew.

Now, Microsoft........ Don't get me started!

"Freedom to innovate"?? Like it took five generations of Windows to approach the sophistication of Mac/OS? Like they "innovated" a browser by buying one and giving it away to kill off Netscape? Like they virtually gave away Office to kill off Lotus and Wordperfect? Like they twiddled with Windows interfaces so non-Microsoft products wouldn't work "quite right"? IBM gave Microsoft the keys to the kingdom (stupidly) and Microsoft turned out to be a bunch of blood-sucking pirates who can't make their own software work with their other software. Innovate... Ya, right.

There, you got me started.

Enjoy your iPhone, Chris! I'll wait till the competition is out for $149 and works on Verizon.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 15:17:26

I don't even own a cell phone - and never want to!

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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 15:18:53

Oh yeah. AT&T. They came by three years ago and paid me for an easement across the front of my property so they could bring in fiber optics and I could get DSL. Last year they started working on it and got all the way to the rich kids playground 1/4 mile down the road--which has one (1) completed house in it. They then wired every lot (mostly unsold) in the playground and stopped 200 yards from me. Ah well, maybe next year. I'm probably one of the few people around who says "Thank God for dial-up."

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 15:49:41

Dave, MS Office is a terrific product. The components all play well together and with the OS. Office was developed by MS. I even run Office on my Mac.

At this point the PC and the Mac all use the same components. Mac OSX is really Unix which Apple did not invent.

Why would you say the Mac is like a Freightliner?

crcalhoon, I work a lot with telecom companies. They are basically untrustworthy. You should have specified in the easement that they must provide service to your home. Good luck.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 16:58:12

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 Dave, MS Office is a terrific product. The components all play well together and with the OS. Office was developed by MS...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
They play somewhat better together than they did for the first 10 years or so, but each product started out as a knock-off, not anything new, and were virtually given away to wipe out competitors. Now there are no viable competitors, and the price of Office is many mulitples of it was when it was a loss-leader. Powerpoint has never understood Word or Excel very well, and has always been at best the third or fourth best presentation software on the market... but since it's free, it's ubiquitous. It would never have stood on its own. Microsoft's "innovation" has been predatory marketing, not applications.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 17:53:12

And to think this all started with a guy braggin' about his new toy.

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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 18:21:29

Hey guys, we have the rest of the internet available to us to debate the iPhone and whether Macs are better than PCs. Speaking only for myself, I would rather use our bits here to talk about sailing...

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 20:07:12

I think the iphone is sailing hardware. Weather, Google Earth, GPS, communications, internet charts, and more to come. (Oh and of course music on the boats which is huge for most of us.) I am excited to see how people use it and to see what marine applications will be written for it. (It runs the real Mac OS not some crippled "portable" OS.) The iphone will revolutionize sailing electronics too, especially for boats our size, (I am willing to bet an iphone will drive an autopilot before the year is out).
As for OS wars, that crops up periodically because the Mac is so under supported in the marine industry and this General Forum is the very place for people to find what marine apps are out there and how to get them to work on the Mac, or any other OS.
All hail the early adopter, they drag the rest of us into the light.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 07/01/2007 : 23:02:54

"All hail the early adopter"
Someone famous once said "never be the first to take on the new, nor the last to give up the old"...

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Justin
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Response Posted - 07/02/2007 : 07:21:22

The iPhone looks nice, I'm not going to pay that much for a phone though. I actually just got a new smart phone last week from Sprint. A Treo 700WX, free after rebates and then I'm on a $30/mo SERO plan that has 500 anytime minutes, unlimited broadband wireless Internet (can also connect to laptop), unlimited nights starting at 7pm and weekends, unlimited text messaging, no roaming charges at all, no long distance, free mobile to mobile and possibly more that I'm forgetting. It is an unbelievable deal. I wanted a phone that I could connect to the web with, especially for my weekends on my waterfront property (my C-25 of course

). I can check weather reports, live traffic conditions overlaid on maps/satellite imagery, email, check out our forum here, access pretty much any website out there.

Yeah the iPhone may do some other things that my Treo can't, but I can still browse the web, watch movies, listen to music, you can also stream both of those over the wireless broadband, view pictures, take pictures and video, there is tons of software out there for it (Windows Mobile), there is so much I can do with the thing I haven't even gotten around to trying out. So my Treo can still do probably the majority of what the iPhone is capable of, but for almost nothing in terms of cost. I've also read the touch screen of the iPhone is not that great. What do yo think? I like having the keyboard on my Treo, you can use the device one handed and very easily make calls.

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 07/02/2007 : 08:21:17

More and more, I feel like my grandfather, who, when asked by his wife or daughters for some money, would pull his money roll (no wallet) out of his farmer's trousers, painfully count out the bills with excrutiating slowness, shake his head and mutter, "God's sake. Be glad when it's all gone."

Brooke

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 07/02/2007 : 11:37:43

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com
 Edit- Sorry, I just can't help myself; TOY! the most powerful men on the planet live by their Blackberrys and the iphone just turned the Blackberry into a pet rock...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Not quite, Frank.

We received a notice from our corporate IT group last week concerning the IPhone and its ability, or rather its inability, to connect to our corporate email exchange servers. So as a true Blackberry replacement, the IPhone appears to fall a bit short.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/02/2007 : 11:56:02

Sorry about the rant... I do like buttons--even little ones--over touch-screens. But the advantage on the iPhone is that all of the real estate can be used for the display. We'll see a lot more of that, including from Blackberry and Palm. The technology isn't new--just the packaging, which is indeed nice.

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 07/02/2007 : 14:07:24

Hey Mystic I agree with you.....

IBM gave Microsoft the keys to the kingdom (stupidly) and Microsoft turned out to be a bunch of blood-sucking pirates who can't make their own software work with their other software. Innovate... Ya, right.

I would like to publicly apologize to you now for that sinful, unetical,stupid purchase I made years ago of that Microsoft stock that forced me to buy and pay cash for that lousy 1993 Jeep I drive,the ugly C250 WK but very reliable, Catalina C310 I just purchased and for retiring last year and becoming a thieving double dipper.

paulj

ps Sweet made it to Anacortes and launched his boat OK.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 07/02/2007 : 15:28:16

Personally, I am a big fan of Ned Ludd.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/02/2007 : 17:44:03

My ideal phone would do this:

I dial, it rings someone, we talk

Someone else dials, it rings, we talk

and it has bigger numbers so I can read them without glasses

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