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Alan Clark
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Initially Posted - 08/07/2007 :  11:27:50  Show Profile
I nam interested in putting on a tether attachment point to clip in when I single hand and also as a safety point. I would like to put it under the wood on the bridge But I have a lev o guage there, I could probably put it alongside but near the wood as I do not want to invite leaks ,any suggestions as to what I should buy and how to attach it.. strength requirements? I weigh 175 lbs and sail with an inflatable PFD. Much Thanks

Alan & Eileen
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jerlim
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Response Posted - 08/07/2007 :  12:39:18  Show Profile
Why not install a jackline to clip your tether to? It runs the length of the boat - sometimes on both sides, sometimes down the center, The other end of the tether clips to your safety harness. This keeps you attached to the boat - or better yet it keeps you from going overboard.

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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 08/07/2007 :  14:02:26  Show Profile
I use a jack Line when I sail on Lake Erie on a Catalina 30, But for our in land lake , All Lines are led aft and I have a roller Furler, NOT that I wont get in trouble But It would be for a short duration.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 08/07/2007 :  15:33:54  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
Alan,

I put two in the cockpit, one where you would like to - under the companionway entry, and one on the side of the starboard cockpit seat. Both are through-bolted and backed with large washers. I am just over 200 pounds and expect they will hold me in an emergency.

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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 08/07/2007 :  16:13:01  Show Profile
If you only install one attachment point, make sure that it can be reached from inside the cabin. You should be able to clip on before you go on deck and get back inside without unclipping.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 08/07/2007 :  19:36:51  Show Profile
Mine is right above my lev-o-meter... It's a 4 screw stainless pad eye with backing wood and fender washers on the inside of the cabin. Probably #10 fasteners.

I don't think it's going to come adrift. You could probably hang the boat from it.

All in all, it's probably a bit of overkill. I think a 2-screw pad eye would work just fine as long as you are through-bolted with washers rather than using screws. Anything that would pull it out would be so catastrophic it probably wouldn't matter at that point. Get one big enough to easily accept your harness snap without binding or struggling to attach/remove it.


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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/07/2007 :  20:00:00  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I only clipped in when going forward except for 1 time. Come to think of it, I only clipped in on the catalina 2 times in my life. Both on the same transport with the new owner to deliver the boat. That is when we broke the rudder in 8 foot seas. That time while in the cockpit I hooked the tether to the horn cleat.


On GLSM's I can't see you in a scenario where you'd need to "come out of the cockpit" already clipped in. I'm sure there could be one but I don't think it is worth putting another hole in the boat (see below). You've already stated that you have a Jackline on the 30 on Lake Erie, I'm guessing you'd do the same if you brought your 25 back up here again.

If you get the three ended tether, you could clip to the stairs, come out of the cockpit and clip to a stanchion base, horn cleat, traveler rail etc and unclip from the cockpit. No need to add anything additional...



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jerlim
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Response Posted - 08/08/2007 :  12:44:00  Show Profile
It's also important to rig the ladder to be releasable from the water...

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DaveC25
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Response Posted - 08/08/2007 :  22:53:43  Show Profile
Some people also cleat a line from the front docking cleat to the stern docking cleat, and clip on to this. It won't keep you from going over, but it's better than nothing.

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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 08/09/2007 :  13:02:21  Show Profile
I have also trailed a off the stern but prefer not to for a variety of reasons, so you feel the stanchions are sturdy enough to attach to?

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 08/09/2007 :  14:17:42  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
As far as attaching to stanchions go, I've been told that it's a bad idea. The engineer in me says, "well, maybe". I could see if you clipped into the top of a stanchion or lifeline attached to one, the lever arm created from the top of the stanchion to the base would give you tremendous torque which could quite possibly pull the stanchion out of the deck. However, if you're clipped into the base of the stanchion where your lever arm is greatly reduced, hence much less torque, it would seem to be an OK place to clip in, not your best choice, but better than nothing.

I personally like the idea of having a halyard attached (when on the foredeck) which prevents you from going over the side, or if you do, your feet are only the amount of stretch you placed on the halyard due to your weight below the deck, and there's probably a lifeline within easy reach to self rescue. Of course this is problematic if you're single handing, but I seem to remember a bit of gear from my rock climbing days that would let you self belay, this seems adaptable to a single hander wanting to belay himself with a halyard from above. If nothing else if you have to go on the foredeck by yourself, you can at least adjust the halyard so that you can't go over the side, you just can't go back to the cockpit while tied in.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/09/2007 :  18:03:15  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
If you have stanchions with welded in pieces on the base yes. Off the lifeline or the stanchion themselves - no

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