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delliottg
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Initially Posted - 08/08/2007 : 13:48:17

One of my friends pointed me to [url="http://www.sailnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35879"]this article on Sailnet[/url] on how to do an emergency reef if your halyard gets stuck.

David
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Sirius Lepak
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/08/2007 : 19:09:42

My first thought was release the outhaul and wrap the sail to the mast with the halyard, getting one wrap under each batten to pull it upward. I don't get purpose of the rest of his rig... But one other problem I have with his illustration--with two or more spreaders, I don't see how he can do the wrapping with the halyard except above the topmost spreader and below the bottom one, unless he climbs the mast.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 08/08/2007 : 21:15:37

I think it is of some significance that there are only 44 topics on sailnet about the C250.. why?

Because here's where all the C250 action is at!

Glad to be an association member.

Paul

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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 08/08/2007 : 22:30:55

It's an interesting article, but releasing the outhaul works if you have a loose-footed main.
Those of us with bolt-roped-footed main would still be in trouble.

Russ C250 #793

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Don B
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Response Posted - 08/09/2007 : 07:18:44

Even with a bolt-roped-footed main, wouldn't I be able to utilize the topping lift to raise the boom parrallel to the mast...then wrap up everything nice and snug?

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/09/2007 : 08:35:17

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Don B
 Even with a bolt-roped-footed main, wouldn't I be able to utilize the topping lift to raise the boom parrallel to the mast...then wrap up everything nice and snug?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
With single spreaders, it would seem so... With multiple spreaders (as illustrated) you wouldn't be able to wrap with a halyard except above the top one and below the bottom one. This is the diagram where I can't see how he can do it between his spreaders--makes me wonder if anyone actually did this...

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 08/09/2007 : 08:49:03

A halyard jumping the sheave would almost certainly be a wire halyard phenomena and not applicable to the 250.

If of course the halyard were fouled otherwise down below, a knife solves that.

I did one time have a halyard hang aloft on the Hobie 18... it used a ring on the end of the halyard that latched into a hook... to release the halyard was pulled an additional amount to dislodge the latch and in this case the latch was bent and bound up.

Of course, the Hobie could simply be laid over.

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Response Posted - 08/09/2007 : 10:03:37

I've had rope jump sheaves before - it all depends on the sheave style, conditions, wear, lubrication etc. I wouldn't necessarily say it is limited to wire only. Keep in mind this guy had a halyard lock which malfunctioned; not that any of the 3 models have those (though I considered installing one a while back-

Dave - I don't think he'd be able to wrap it very well above the spreaders either - unless he could toss those gathering lines through there and use it to feed the lashing line inbetween?

Definitely a jury rig emergency effort though. Not many of us are going to have a 580 mile sail in our boats. Keep in mind all this work would have been done in rough seas too!

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 08/09/2007 : 10:22:26

I like the idea of raising the boom up to the mast.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/09/2007 : 17:58:08

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by jerlim
 I like the idea of raising the boom up to the mast.
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Not viable on all boats, but certainly a good thought on the 25

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 08/10/2007 : 17:13:52

Full battens, double spreaders, 50 feet up....could be a challenge.....

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