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CapnEddy
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Initially Posted - 08/24/2007 :  18:57:58  Show Profile
I bought a Harken Lazy Jack for my 250WB, then thought about the instalation on my frequently trailered 250WB. Instead of threading the control lines around the boom each time I launch what would be a more efficient installation?
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Response Posted - 08/25/2007 :  11:08:55  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
pad eyes and clips?
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CapnEddy
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Response Posted - 08/25/2007 :  14:50:52  Show Profile
Thanks Oscar, that was easy!
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 08/26/2007 :  05:21:32  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
This suggestion is not of help to the lazy jacks... but might give other trailer sailors needing and thinking of sail management an option.

To cope with the dropped sail, I went with self storing sail ties because they provide quick management of the lowered sail but don't require any additional setup time for the trailer sailor. The trailer sailor will usually not have lines led aft so will be managing the main halyard from the mast anyway, so it is little problem to deal with the boom stored sail ties.

The rigging is fairly simple, requiring two cheek blocks, an eye strap, two hammock hooks and a length of bungee fitted to the boom. The rigging has no effect upon removing the boom during trailering so requires no setup time. When not in use, the bungee retracts flat against the boom offering no obstacles.

When the sail is dropped, two sections of bungee are pulled over the gathered sail and hooked, having the effect of securing the sail with four sail ties. The difference is that it takes perhaps 15 seconds to secure the sail compared to having to retrieve the sail ties from wherever they are stored, managing them in the teeth, which keeps one from communicating with the helmsperson, and then tieing each separately, most often using three that provide less securing than obtained with the self storing system. Total time of sail ties, probably two minutes.

So, self storing sail ties do a better job easier and in far less time.

When ready to sail again, the inverse is also true... it takes 10 seconds to release the sail compared to a minute to untie the ties and throw them into the hatch where later they will need collected and stored.
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britinusa
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Response Posted - 08/26/2007 :  13:03:52  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
someone was compiling a list of the changes in models over the years.
The pic of Arlyns C250WB shows several.
Chainplates outside the toerail.
Tiny Jib Traveler
Pulpit mast carrier.

On the 2005 model, the chainplates are inside the toerail, the traveler extends to not far from the winches and the pulpit mast carrier was not included in the package (because the trailer has a mast carrier atop the raising pole.)

Paul.
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 08/26/2007 :  21:51:30  Show Profile
CapnEddy, be aware that if Arlyn could make anchor rode out of bungee, he would.
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 08/27/2007 :  06:57:24  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Randy... lol

Here is that list.
<ul><li>Anti fouling line for jib sheets</li><li>Wraps to hold jib cars vertical</li><li>Retract line on baby stay</li><li>Self Storing sail ties</li><li>Rudder hold down line</li><li>Restrainer for ice box</li><li>Mounting hold down for pedestal guard drink holder and bino rack</li><li>Mounting hold down for auxilliary fuel locker and stern seat</li><li>Of course, the stock hold down for fuel locker</li><li>Tensioner on burgee halyard</li><li>Tensioner to pull halyards from mast while at anchor</li><li>Mounting straps for furler luff mast carriers</li><li>Of course various straps for securing things while trailering</li></ul>

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