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StSimon
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Initially Posted - 09/05/2007 :  01:27:38  Show Profile
<b><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color="navy">I've been an "A" frame trailer sailor for years but just purchased a CD Mast Up.

I raised my mast numerous times single handedly. Are CD claims of single handedly raising the mast true?

I do like the fact that the mast is no longer resting on the coachroof.

Any thoughts or advice?

Andy
Breakin' Wind '84 SR SK</font id="navy"></font id="Comic Sans MS"></font id="size2"></b>

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 09/05/2007 :  06:14:13  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I use a mast up often and have NEVER considered it appropriate for single handed mast raising. Remember that much of what CD says is writen for the 22 and simply used on the 25. I would have no problem pushing a 22 mast up from a Mast-up but would not attempt it on a 25. I have done it with two people but you really need your lines and turnbuckles prepared and it needs to be a quick lift with no pauses.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 09/05/2007 :  06:23:26  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Andy, we have the mast raising pole on our trailer, I have raised the mast several times single handed, if that is any help.

Paul

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/05/2007 :  08:56:34  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by britinusa</i>
<br />Andy, we have the mast raising pole on our trailer, I have raised the mast several times single handed, if that is any help.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...but that's a C-250.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 09/05/2007 :  11:27:07  Show Profile
I've seen the mast raising device on a C-22 and a C-250 trailer before. If the Admiral ever consents to us buying a trailer, I'm going to see about adding one, if the C-25 bow doesn't hang over the winch too much.
A C-22 friend from Knoxville fabricated his own. It rises to just below the top of the bow pulpit and has a separate winch on it. He also uses a Mast-Up device. His approach is to extend the Mast Up, attach the base of the mast to the step, attach the 2nd winch line to both lower shroud turnbuckles and crank away. This keeps the forestay free to secure to the bow when the mast is up. He uses a boathook to clear any snagged shrouds and the winch holds the mast at any point he may need to stop cranking. It should work on a C-25 as well.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 09/05/2007 :  14:14:37  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Getting the mast up or down is not the problem, the problem is keeping the mast from going side to side.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 09/05/2007 :  18:42:48  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
I have an article, which I am trying to locate, that outlines a rig for keeping the mast from swinging from side to side when raisinng it single-handed. When I find it I'll post it.

Essentialy it requires adding two a large pad eyes on each side of the mast, as high up as you can reach from the coach roof. The higher the beter. Equal lengths of line are attached to the padeyes at the mast and to two lines led to the stanchion bases,one forward and one aft of the mast. When tensioned, these lines keep the mast from swaying as it is raised. The only time i ever raised tha mast single handed it worked great, especially since I was working with a cross wond. The article is complete with photos. Hope I can locate it.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 09/06/2007 :  19:17:29  Show Profile
I have raised my tall rig mast and lowered it single handed. I use a 12' long A frame, and my old C22 mast up. I use a 3 part block system from some old boom vang parts with the line run through my clutch to the cabin top winch.
Frank is right, side to side motion is the problem.
I may add that my furler adds to the difficulty.
I do have quick releases instead of turnbuckles on my forward lowers which makes it a lot easier.
Having a helper makes it a lot easier, but it can be done.
I am a little crazy I might add too

I don't think I'll attempt to raise and lower the mast on my new Ericson 32 myself though.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 09/10/2007 :  19:16:35  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
Having raised the mast on my 250 countless times with the tackle and winch I can tell there were forces at play which are MUCH greater than I would manage just trying to lift the thing.

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StSimon
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Response Posted - 09/10/2007 :  20:03:49  Show Profile
Thanks all,

I guess I'll continue to use my A-frame in conjunction with the Mast Up.

In the past I've reduced the lateral movement on the mast by tying a line around the lower shrouds with two half hitches. It would give slightly under enough lifting pressure but had to be repositioned a couple of times.

Fair Winds,

Andy
Breakin' Wind '84 SR SK

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