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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/14/2007 :  14:39:31  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
When I hear the name MacGregor I still think of hardy little trailer sailors in the Venture and South Coast vein, I refuse to sully their decent economy boat past by linking them to the Blue Hulled Mac&Cheez boats. We need to give them a new name.
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 11/14/2007 :  14:56:03  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
I agree, my first boat was a nice little Venture catamaran. Built like a rock & stood up to a lot of my learning mistakes nicely.
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willy
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Response Posted - 11/15/2007 :  01:25:31  Show Profile
Mike
I'm intrigued by the Electric Lift. Got a picture? Can you share the manufacturer and number. My wife would love me so...
Willy
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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 11/15/2007 :  09:26:53  Show Profile
Willy: I think Mike is talking about the electric tilt option that Honda and Yamaha offer. However, Garelick has an electric/hydraulic bracket (for quite a few boat units)...
http://www.garelick.com/product.php?pnumber=71095
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piseas
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Response Posted - 11/15/2007 :  13:18:49  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
My first thought about an electric lift for the outboard was, "You have got to be kidding". Is this the epitome of laziness? But on 2nd thought, I am getting older, arms are weaker, etc. And I do have an autopilot but not sure if that is in same class as laziness.
I would like one of those lifting cranes with a wench to raise and lower my motor for the inflatable.
Guess I will keep my thoughts to myself next time.
Steve A
PS Does anyone else also feel that they are making food bags, like potato chips and cereal bags, harder to open?
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 11/15/2007 :  14:08:11  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">...with a wench to raise and lower my motor...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Arrrr! I be wanting one of those too. But I don't refer to me private parts as a motor!
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delliottg
Former Mainsheet C250 Tech Editor

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Response Posted - 11/15/2007 :  14:10:39  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
It's always good to have extra [url="http://www.answers.com/topic/wench"]wenches [/url]around...
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Mike013
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Response Posted - 11/15/2007 :  16:14:49  Show Profile
The electric lift I referred to is the electric tilt option that brings the prop out of the water to avoid drag while sailing. Of course, being a seafaring manly man I would much prefer to wrestle the engine out of the water by hand. However, the senior wench aboard much prefers the ease of the tilt lift.
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piseas
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Response Posted - 11/15/2007 :  16:28:47  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
Mike, was that electric lift something you added? I just ask cuz if you did, how did your senior wench know it was even available?
Steve A
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 11/15/2007 :  20:44:08  Show Profile
I know this isn't the power trim/tilt that Mike was referring too but for normal raising and lowering of the motor in the vertical plane this might be a slightly cheaper option than the electric lift that Dave mentioned.
http://www.garelick.com/product.php?pnumber=71092
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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 11/15/2007 :  21:59:45  Show Profile
The right springs make hydraulics unnecessary.
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willy
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Response Posted - 11/16/2007 :  10:20:46  Show Profile
You guys are so brave. I mean, I will go out in 20 knot breezes, go white water rafting, and would even consider skydiving...but if I was to refer to my wife as a SENIOR wench...I would be dead. I mean, wench she would handle...Senior? No way. (she will be 50 this July and you know...)
Willy
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 11/16/2007 :  12:37:09  Show Profile
Anything less than "Admiral" and I wont be getting "lucky" for a while.
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stampeder
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Response Posted - 11/16/2007 :  14:02:38  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">When I hear the name MacGregor I still think of hardy little trailer sailors in the Venture and South Coast vein<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

One of the best sailors on our lake has a very nice example of a Venture 22. I think its at least 25 years old. He doesn't sail in calm weather, he waits for the 15+ knot winds. There are 7 or 8 of the older style Mac26 , white hulls with black trim - they too are good boats and all are owned by capable sailors who sail them on the West Coast as well as lakes around here. They are a lot easier to trailer than my C25.

The new Macs are definitely not in the same league, and seem to attract a less capable following.
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 11/16/2007 :  14:51:49  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Duly posted to the Forum Bloopers

[url="http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/blooper18.html"]This blooper[/url]

[url="http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/blooper1.html"]all the bloopers[/url]
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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 11/16/2007 :  15:00:40  Show Profile
A classic retort, indeed!
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piseas
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Response Posted - 11/16/2007 :  18:27:53  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
Arlyn, you're killing me. I should go back and make an edit to correct. But what are bloopers for? Usually not at my expense, however. Watch out, you are next.
Steve A
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willy
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Response Posted - 11/19/2007 :  07:20:02  Show Profile
Believe me Arlyn, It was the first thing I though of when I got into this string!
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