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Paul Mailer
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Initially Posted - 11/14/2007 : 10:12:03

I wonder if anyone can help me with this. I have a furling jib which is attached to the mast head on the aft of the two clevis pins provided. The original C- 25 parts catalogue shows a block for a spinnaker halyard mounted on the forward pin. Does anyone use this setup with a furler, or do I need to fashion a masthead crane to keep an asymmetrical spinnaker clear of the furler?

Runaway 1981 C-25 TR/FK #2455

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/14/2007 : 10:51:49

What brand furler do you have?

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Paul Mailer
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Response Posted - 11/14/2007 : 11:09:24

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Paul Mailer
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Frank Hopper
 What brand furler do you have?
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It's a Harken, I'm not sure which model

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/14/2007 : 13:45:52

With a Harken you should have a halyard diverter, a little fairlead a couple of inches below the masthead jib sheave, which causes your halyard to go from the sheave, straight down the face of the mast a couple of inches, then the halyard shackle clips on the top shackle of the Harken top swivel. That means your top swivel is several inches below the masthead. That means that if you use a small halyard and the appropriate block, I would use a Harken Carbo, then the spinnaker block should have room on the forward clevis and you should not need to fabricate a crane. Using the forward clevis means the Asym will be forward of the furler and you will be gybing it in front of the boat so you need really long sheets.
As for why I asked... I have a CDI which leaves the jib halyard free due to its internal halyard. This means I can use the halyard for an Asym and can gybe an Asym inside the forestay like a genoa and use shorter sheets.

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farrison
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Response Posted - 11/15/2007 : 11:43:33

My set-up for my asym/blooper/genoa (whatever you want to call it) is about the same as Frank's, in that the asym "lives" inside the space between the mast and my forestay/roller furler, rather than outside the forestay/roller furler. But I do not have the little fairlead on my mast that Frank's has. My (unknown) brand of furler has a big knuckle on the end of it that would interfere with the mast and mast head if it was attached to the "inner" of the two clevis pins, so my forestay/furler is attached to the outer clevis and the sheave for the asym is attached to the inner clevis. I have a snaplink on the sheets for the furler and I tie up the furled sail and use the same sheets on the asym. I am not a racer so this works just fine for me.

Paul

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/15/2007 : 13:19:49

Here is the question you need to answer -

If a block were to be attached to the forward clevis pin will it rotate freely on both axis (ax eeze?) without getting caught up in the furler, headsail, jib halyard etc.?

If the answer is yes, then you shouldn't need to build a masthead crane.

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Paul Mailer
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Response Posted - 11/16/2007 : 09:23:07

Thanks for your helpful suggestions. I will try this out in the spring and let you know how it works. My boat came set up with a "preventer", a thin line fastened to the top swivel of the furler, and cleated lower down the mast, to help prevent halyard wrap. Maybe the halyard diverter would replace this (imperfect) device.

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Frank Hopper
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SJ
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Response Posted - 11/16/2007 : 11:24:23

I made a crane out of SS wire so that the block is up and forward of the furler. I tried the block on the outer pin but the furler would, not always, but sometimes catch the halyard and wrap. Not a good thing! Snapped a headstay once because of that. Now that was fun! The crane sets all the lines out far enough to make it easy. All my halyards are run interally so I do not really have any problems. Asym or sym both work nice. Dropping the mast Sunday so I'll try and get a few pics.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 11/17/2007 : 11:13:44

Yours looks a lot like mine, Frank

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