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KenDavis
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Initially Posted - 11/15/2007 : 15:52:36

I'm looking for a 150-ish hank on genoa for a standard rig C25.

does anyone know a reference for sail measurments so I can search through lists

or

have a nice one for sale?

Thank you!

Ken

C25 87 SR/WK
ANABELLA
Pensacola Fl

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 11/15/2007 : 23:09:47

According to Cruising Direct (CD) sails:
Luff 29.5 ft.
Leech 27.85 ft.
Foot 17.37 ft.
LP 15.9 ft.

Also, check out www.thesailwarehouse.com. They also list measurements.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/16/2007 : 06:42:22

You can find all of the maximum allowable measurements on the rules section in the racing link. These are for a 155% headsail. Every sail loft out there has these numbers an more for when you purchase a sail. Mauripro Sailing has a good supply of information regarding sail area and rig size as well.

a 155% std rig:

Luff - 30' (this number shouldn't change or vary only a few inches in any sail above 100%)
LP - 16' 3.25"

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KenDavis
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Response Posted - 11/16/2007 : 14:26:35

Thanks for the info.

another question,

do you make up a set of jib sheets for each headsail, or do you swap them over when you change sails?

thanks!

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/16/2007 : 16:43:26

I have always used a snap shackle on the end of permanent set of sheets.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 11/16/2007 : 16:49:59

Different schools of thought on this. My boat came with a single line looped through the clew in the middle on both headsails and they stay on the sails. The working jib sheet is a heavier line than the genoa sheet, largly because I replaced the genoa sheet myself using 3/8" line. I think the jib is 7/16" or 1/2".
Others use 2 separate sheets tied to the clew with bowline knots. This makes it easier to use 1 set of sheets for all of your headsails and may make it easier/quicker to change headsails while under way.
If using separate sheets, you want good rollers on the forward lower shrouds. I use 1.5" PVC pipe.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 : 07:26:39

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by KenDavis
 Thanks for the info.

another question,

do you make up a set of jib sheets for each headsail, or do you swap them over when you change sails?

thanks!

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

If you aren't racing then it really doesn't matter. I would say most people have 1 set of sheets.

Some people tie a loop knot on the end of 1 long sheet. Some put two sheets on with a bowline. I'm not a fan of the snap shackle, in my mind it beats the snot out of the deck and that is way too much weight for me to hang on my headsail.

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listenup
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 : 08:59:37

From a safety standpoint, while underway, I prefer to keep headsail changes to a minimum and stay off the foredeck also as much as possible. I rig all headsails with their own sheet(s) and use a catspaw to attach to the clew. One line, doubled and the catspaw and the change of sail is done to minimum time. I echo the "no snap shackles" on the sheets.
Mike

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 : 09:36:00

I do not recommend snap shackles, but I use them. I have taken one to the temple where my Titanium glasses took most of the impact, It was the fault of the skipper who was not handling the sheets well. I pride myself in not allowing those situations to happen on my boat but realistically that is just arrogance talking. I have always had lots of headsails and have always had very nice sheets, a $50 snap shackle solved many dilemma associated with that. I did leave a red 1/2" trophy braid on a storm sail once, it was a great arrangement. I have self tailing winches now and they are very picky about what line they will work with. In the final analysis it is ridiculous for me to use a snap shackle on a furling sail, I will probably remove it for the spring.

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triley
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 : 22:06:36

If we have to change headsails while awaiting a race or in between races, the snapshackle is a godsend, though I agree about it slapping around. Just undo it, unhank sail, hand sail and attach!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 : 22:26:58

That shackle will mess with your sail shape and cost you in light air

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 11/19/2007 : 16:43:29

I use an aluminum carabiner from REI on the middle of my jib sheet. It is the kind that has a captive barrel that screws over the connection. It is super light, and won't beat you or the deck. Cost only $12.

Make sure to use the one with the screw barrel, before I did this I had a bad habit of cliping the carabiner on the shrouds during a tack.

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montl
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Response Posted - 12/16/2007 : 08:52:35

Have you found a good used 155 yet?
I have one that is for sale in good shape
I can get exact measurements from it over holiday weekend

Lloyd

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 12/16/2007 : 14:18:33

Hmmm...we use a snap shackle on our 110 & 70 so the transition's easy in a blow. I hadn't thought much about it beaning someone, seems like you can keep tension on your leeward sheet till it's reattached, but maybe I need to think about it. I have lots of carabiners from when I used to climb, and I have several with the locking barrels. All the rest of our sails have their own sheets.

I'll have to think on this a bit.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 12/17/2007 : 10:19:30

Lloyd
I tried to look at your site - kept getting 401 error.

Do you keep your boat at one of the Marinas at Dief?

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montl
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Response Posted - 12/17/2007 : 11:14:36

Yes, at Elbow Harbour on Lake Diefenbaker.

Sasktel who were the server for my website have without warning just dropped it, so it isn't working.

You can email me direct at l.montgomery@sasktel.net

Lloyd

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KenDavis
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Response Posted - 12/17/2007 : 11:40:25

Lloyd,

No, I haven't bought one yet.
so let me know what you have. A photo of it in action would be cool
if possible.

Thanks!
Ken

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montl
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Response Posted - 12/18/2007 : 08:54:04

Ken;

I looked through my photos and have only one that shows the sail, and not very well, but you may be able to get the idea of how good it is.
If you could email me at l.montgomery@sasktel.net I will send you this picture by email.

I will be up to the cottage over Christmas and will take some photos and take some measurements for you.

Lloyd

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