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AADIVER
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Initially Posted - 11/17/2007 :  18:20:26  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
What are your top three reasons for satisfaction with your 250 and have no desire to move up to a larger boat? In other words, talk me out of selling PRETTY PENNY for a C-30. Thanks.
Frank Farmer
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PRETTY PENNY
'01 C-250 WK, Hull #558
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britinusa
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Response Posted - 11/17/2007 :  19:37:32  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
As Henk recently demonstrated, trailerability!

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 11/17/2007 :  19:42:40  Show Profile
Systems, age (Boat, not skipper) and ease of sailing.

These are the three things that make me hesitant.

There are a lot more systems to worry about. Our boats are basically buckets with a stick and sail. Porta-potties are less problematic than heads; outboards are less expensive to repair than inboards; I like tillers better than wheels; Teak maintenance; just to name a few.

I have a 1999 C250. In order to afford a C30, I'll have to buy a mid-80's vintage. I'm not mechanically inclined. Older boats mean more potential issues.

Our boats couldn't be easier to sail. Admittedly, they're light(er) wind boats and that brings its own set of problems but the size of the C30 just makes doing everything from docking to reefing to hoisting sails just a little more work to singlehand.

Having said all that, I look at the want ads every day. I'm pretty sure a C30 is in my future as well -- just not sure how soon.
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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 11/17/2007 :  20:11:24  Show Profile
DON'T BUY THAT C30...... it may be the one I'm looking at to buy
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KBeazley
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Response Posted - 11/17/2007 :  20:45:18  Show Profile
How about a Telstar 28 if you have to jump overboard!?
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/17/2007 :  21:15:08  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by britinusa</i>
<br />...trailerability!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Is that a pro or con?
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KBeazley
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Response Posted - 11/17/2007 :  22:54:59  Show Profile
Concerning a move to a C30; If trailerability is an issue-con, if room is an issue-for. One alternative to have both if not some trade offs albeit its not a Catalina is the Telstar; headroom, speed somewhat less room than a C30 in livability and ease in trailerability. Have not sailed one yet they do look intriguing, my vote: C250 but that's my needs not yours! In the end the admiral must be happy and one must be true to oneself.
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 11/17/2007 :  23:48:30  Show Profile
1-Trailerable
2-Low Maintenance
3-Ease of handling

If these things are not important to you then you should move to a larger boat.
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 :  07:35:08  Show Profile
1-Room
2-Comfort
3-Increased stability under sail

If these things are not important to you then you should stay with a smaller boat.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 :  09:38:24  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Frank, I have never understood why a diver would sail such a small platform, get a 30.
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mhartong
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 :  11:59:14  Show Profile  Visit mhartong's Homepage
Cost: Persephone fully tricked out with sail drive, marine head, 2nd battery and batter charger, AC shore power, chart-plotter, VHF radio, autopilot, waste water tank level indicator, and wheel steering, with controls to the wheel was under the half of a price of new 30/309. What did I miss- hot and cold pressurized water, 2 burner stove with an oven, a blue icebox, a navigation station, a big galley Also consider how much more the 30/309 would cost in terms of maintenance, slip fees, innsurance,

Room: The 250 is really quite easy to solo, and has remarkable room for solo sailing, If I regularly had more than 1 person, it would start to get cozy.

Stability: A larger boat will be more stable.

I'd say look at you current usage and where do you really have the desire, time and money to go. If you regularly use your current boat and she does not fit your current of projected near term needs, than you should take the plunge and get the larger boat.


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Mark
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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 :  13:43:29  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
Frankly, Frank, a sailboat under 40 ft without an aft platform is the worst sea craft for diving God ever created. I sail to sail, NOT to dive. And when I do dive, I dive from commercial charter dive boats.
As to answers to my question: trailering not an issue; I'm in my marina slip 24/7. I, too, am NOT mechanically or electrically adept and inclined. So my only reason for moving to a larger boat has to do with below deck accommodations and not simplicity and ease of sailing. Since I'm not in any rush to switch, I'll just wait for the "perfect" mid '80's C-30, i.e. relatively new or low hour diesel and TLC upgrades. Probably waaaaaaaaay down the seaway.
Thanks for all the input.
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 :  14:04:11  Show Profile
You hit the key point Frank. Those bigger boats have more extensive and complicated "systems" to deal with. Otherwise, if trailering is not an issue, and you have a slip, I would be sorely tempted by a 30' Catalina or even up to a 34'.
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bear
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 :  19:21:23  Show Profile
Frank, You appear to have the ideal conditions to support a bigger boat. As I wrote before the logistics/ support must be an initial consideration, I had to give up for now on a bigger Catalina here in upstate N.Y. because of our six months of winter and the preparation and storage $$$$$$$$$ involved. If you find your boat jump quickly Frank.....
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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 :  20:08:34  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
I think I've found "her"; an '85, tiller helm, Universal diesel, brokered in a Redondo Beach marina, but the asking's too high: $26,900.00. I'll offer 20 and they'll either laugh in my face or...counter. I can get 22 for PRETTY PENNY so I'd angle for a wash. Still would cost me: last bottom paint and the total survey would come to over 2 grand. All it takes is money ;-)
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piseas
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 :  20:28:36  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
Frank, if we have to convice you, then its time to move up! But just dont come crying to us later when you find out their forum is crappy.
Steve A
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 11/18/2007 :  21:14:21  Show Profile
It has a tiller. Buy it! Steve's right though. Their website could take a lesson from this one.
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stampeder
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Response Posted - 11/20/2007 :  15:52:34  Show Profile
I know that if I had a slip where you are Frank, I'd be in a 30+ footer.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">And when I do dive, I dive from commercial charter dive boats.
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Same same.
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