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Brooke Willson
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Initially Posted - 08/07/2002 : 21:29:31

Today on a beam reach in the Rappahannock River I peaked the GPS at 6.4 knots. I was sustaining speeds above 6.0, and hit 6.4 for maybe a minute. I was, to say the least, astounded.

I was flying a 17 year old Main and 110 Jib. Winds were from the north I would guess somewhere around 15 knots, gusting higher.

What an amazing boat we sail!

Brooke

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 08/08/2002 : 08:36:51

I'm jealous! After sweating through last weekend here on the Piankatank with almost no wind I've been trapped back in Richmond at the office for this entire glorious week!<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

I'm glad you had a great sail - I soooo wanted to be out there this week. 6+ knots is great! What is the "theoretical" hull speed for a C25?

Cathy
"Blown Away"
'97 C250WK #253

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 08/08/2002 : 10:02:36

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What is the "theoretical" hull speed for a C25?

Cathy
"Blown Away"
'97 C250WK #253
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6.308 knots ... or so I've heard!

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"

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jtbarrett
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Response Posted - 08/08/2002 : 10:56:07

Brooke,

Where are you located on the Rappahanock River.. I am located on myer creek? Yankee Point Yatch Club would love to have you wednesday nights for.."Wednesday Night Beer Can Races". I would race but during the week I am in northern va, some of us still have to work. Anyway my friends race it and have a wonderful relaxing time with a social afterwards. Here is the link for info!
http://pages.zdnet.com/viking72/

Jonathan T Barrett
Yankee Point Yatch Club...Lancaster,Va
1982 SR SK
"Hang Loose"
P.S. Watch out for the Sea Dog/Rag Doll/NightStar Race Team..hehehe

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mqp
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Response Posted - 08/08/2002 : 10:57:32

How clean was your bottom? I cleaned the bottom a few weeks ago and had no problem hitting 6 knots in about 13 knots of wind with a main and 150 genoa. With a dirty bottom, though, I have never been able to get to 6 knots.

--Minh

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 08/08/2002 : 14:02:50

I hit 10.5 Kts two weeks ago but I was cheating. Going through the Tacoma narrows with the tide and using a GPS instead of a Knot meter. It was still exciting. Zoooooooooooom.

Doug&Ruth
Wind Lass
Tacoma Wa.

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BCain
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Response Posted - 08/08/2002 : 16:43:29

Brooke, I just came in from sailing in about the same conditions and broke 7 knots on a beam reach. We had a "cold front" come through last night (low humidity, 88 degrees and north breeze) and I couldn't pass up the chance to go out for a few hours.

Bruce Cain, SK/SR Wind Shadow
Central Florida

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 00:30:08

I sail out of Urbanna Yachting Center. Thanks for the invite, but I don't race. The rest of my life goes fast enough without having to worry about someone passing me on the water. I usually sail on Fridays, but I'm taking this week as vacation.

The bottom is very clean: had it cleaned and painted this summer. It had been four years since my last bottom job -- a testimonial to Trinidad paint, I guess. The yard guy said the bottom looked surprisingly good considering. And, there were no blisters, thank God and Frank Butler.

7 knots? Wow. Was that current assisted, like Doug?

By the way, the best I could do today was 5.6. And then the wind died completely as the high passed overhead.

Brooke

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 10:13:52

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...I don't race. The rest of my life goes fast enough without having to worry about someone passing me on the water...
Brooke
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Brooke: Come on, you know very well that if there're two sailboats within sight of each other on the water, there's a race going on! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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BCain
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 10:18:49

Nope, 7 knots on an inland lake, no current, just a beautiful day. Although everyone says that Cats are slow, I have noticed that I can outrun just about everyone on the lake and I am not a racer.

Bruce Cain SK/SR Wind Shadow

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 12:14:39

Brooke: Yes I was going with the ebb tide through the Tacoma Narrows and not max ebb at that. It can get into the 7 to 9 kts area at max ebb or flood. Best speed I have seen with a clean bottom I think was around 6.3 kts.

Doug&Ruth
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Tacoma Wa.

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 22:53:15

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Brooke: Come on, you know very well that if there're two sailboats within sight of each other on the water, there's a race going on! <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Yes, and I'm usually the slower one. . . although the C25 SR behind me yesterday gave up trying to catch me and turned around. It's one thing to try to get the best I can out of my boat when there's another boat on the same course, and quite another to maneuver going around the buoys trying to defeat someone. I don't disparage anyone who loves to race: I'm sure it's great fun. But heck, when I used to play basketball, I never knew what the score was -- I just loved to play and do my best.

Brooke

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John Bixby
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Response Posted - 08/12/2002 : 19:39:11

GPS on Ms Achsa showed 6.3 on Galveston Bay just after a bottom job.
Slower now that a year has passed and needs a scraping.
John

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 08/13/2002 : 01:46:54

Okay....you won't believe it, but I just hit a new speed record 2 weeks ago, myself. I did not use GPS, but the knotmeter read 9.4. I was motorsailing up the Columbia River, which has up to 3 knots of current at times, although it wasn't running that hard this day. I traveled 34 statute miles (by chart) from one slip to another in Portland. I was singlehanded with the Yamaha 9.9 four stroke wound up tight and a 130 genny flying full. The speed I saw was "surfing", of course, off pretty good sized waves. I saw it more than once and 9+ several times. It was almost scarey, but the trip took 5 1/2 hours from slip to slip...including a short wait for a railroad bridge to open.....
Sans engine, I have seen 8.4 on the KM under cruising chute, and with a full main/150 last weekend during a singlehanded race. I know it sounds crazy, but I have checked the KM with the GPS on other occasions, and against other's KMs in a regatta this weekend.....

I have owned this boat off and on since 1983; for the first bunch of years, 7.3 was the record, but I am learning how to sail much better since trying racing a year or so ago.....it makes a difference!

Gary B.
Encore! #685 SR/SK (now in Portland, OR)

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Bill Sloane
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Response Posted - 08/15/2002 : 15:26:56

Trying to get the hang of this website.
Brand new Catalina 25 owner. Just joined the National Association. This is my first post. Very interesting discussion on speed. I have no idea how fast my boat goes. Sure does go though. I better get a knotmeter. I bought the boat from Gary B. I didn't realize he could go so fast.

Bill
"Suede Shoes"
Shelton Washington

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/15/2002 : 20:56:43

Welcome, Bill... But I've gotta warn ya--this place can be addictive! Before you invest in a knotmeter and make a new hole in your hull, let me suggest a simple, low-end GPS, which will give you a very accurate reading of your speed over the bottom. The only thing that's missing, and which is important to racers, is speed through the water--meaning without considering the effects of currents. Lake sailors don't have that issue, so the GPS tells them the whole story.

And Gary B: HOLY COW!!
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Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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