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jncarlin
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Initially Posted - 08/08/2002 : 13:39:51

Hi All!

When I had a powerboat, there was a label in the boat that gave capacity both in number of persons and weight that the boat could safely carry. I don't notice any such label in my Cat25 - is there a recommended maximum number of passengers and/or weight that the Cat25 can handle? Factory spec?

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/08/2002 : 17:21:58

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Hi All!

When I had a powerboat, there was a label in the boat that gave capacity both in number of persons and weight that the boat could safely carry. I don't notice any such label in my Cat25 - is there a recommended maximum number of passengers and/or weight that the Cat25 can handle? Factory spec?

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number of people= LOA x BEAM over 15

Or 200/15 = 13 people.
(per USCG)

I wouldn't go Higher than 8 or 9....

Duane Wolff
"The Flying Wasp"
C-25, #401 std,sk
Chief Measurer C-25/250 National Assn.
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Edited by - Duane Wolff on 08/08/2002 17:23:02

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 00:38:44

Where would you put nine people on a C25? Nine adults, that is?

I think the most I've had on board was about six, and that was pretty full. Four adults pretty much fill up the cockpit if you're going to have room to move the tiller and handle sheets and halyards. Putting two more below isn't a lot of fun for them, especially if the seas are rough and they're prone to seasickness.

If you're talking about loading the decks for a leisurely motor around the lake or creek, then I'm sure eight or nine would pose no problem.

Brooke

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 08:45:35

Brooke,

6 in the cockpit 2 or three on the rail or coach top or wherever, one standing in the hole or on the stairs...I never eluded to it being comfortable or an efficient weight distribution.

The only time I have had that many was when 8 of crew from the boat I race on (an evelyn 32 (races anywhere from 6 to 11 depending on weather)) came out one evening a few weeks ago. For them, actually being allowed to sit up against the mast on an upwind leg was a luxury. The guy standing in the hole was just happy not to have to crane his neck all evening looking at the sails. Its all relative I guess.

dw

Duane Wolff
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 10:05:30

Better watch it, Duane--you might convert those racers into day sailors! (Relaxing on a sailboat--what a concept!) The captain of the Evelyn would never forgive you!

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 13:47:27

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Better watch it, Duane--you might convert those racers into day sailors! (Relaxing on a sailboat--what a concept!) The captain of the Evelyn would never forgive you!

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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These guys know how to race and cruise, amongst the crew we have 2 bass boats, an FJ, 2 cruising sailboats and a ski boat. So amongst all of us we have our choice of whatever. But when its time to race, we race.

We have basically taken the misfits and made a very solid and successful crew out of them over the past 5 years. It just rubs the blue bloods the wrong way when we get out there, actually have fun and win too. It has to be quite an odd site seeing us on the water. We lead the fleet in tatoos and probably take a close second in body piercings, (of which my contribuiton is nil) only to be beaten by that one all women's boat might have us there. Curently, we have 2 construction workers, a pizza delivery guy, a cell phone salesman, a dj at a strip club, 320lb unemployed musician, 2 doctors, a dock worker, and myself, plus whatever straglers they bring along. I would only trade this crew for 1 thing, and last I checked, Dennis is pretty set for this fall's Louis Vitton.

Duane Wolff
"The Flying Wasp"
C-25, #401 std,sk
Chief Measurer C-25/250 National Assn.
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 14:53:09

And Duane - I hope he gets his butt royally kicked!!
Derek

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 14:57:31

Brooke,

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Where would you put nine people on a C25? Nine adults, that is?
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I once raced with 13 adults on my C-25 in ultra-light winds, and we won. People were standing and sitting all over the coach roof and cockpit, and hanging onto shrouds and grab rails. We were able to shift weight and intentionally heel the boat, just like on a small dinghy. On a C-25, it takes a lot of movable ballast to do it. When we heeled the boat, gravity caused our sails to hang in their proper shape to drive the boat. With all that weight, we were obviously slow to accelerate. The fleet was rounding the first mark before we even crossed the starting line, but once we got started, we overtook and passed them fairly quickly, because our sails were driving while theirs hung uselessly.

Most racers actually find racing to be relaxing. In the workaday world, we get tense because we are doing things that are important to somebody, and our livelihood depends on their approval. Sailboat racing is a completely frivolous activity where nothing very important is at stake (except our basic human dignity and our sacred honor), and racing is actually a release.

Steve Milby "Captiva Wind" C-25 T/FK #2554

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 18:48:30

Steve - have you ever roll-tacked a C25? I have a total crew weight of just under 600 lbs - and we have done it successfully. But you have to be very well co-ordinated in everyone's motion!
I do agree with your comment that racing is relaxing - we have great fun (win or lose - but more fun when we win!) and come home relaxed and happy.
Derek

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 22:39:46

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Steve - have you ever roll-tacked a C25?
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Hey, there's something Dennis Conner could try! I doubt they could use it in NZ, but if we ever race again off Newport again, it could work!

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 08/09/2002 : 23:02:49

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Brooke,

6 in the cockpit 2 or three on the rail or coach top or wherever, one standing in the hole or on the stairs...I never eluded to it being comfortable or an efficient weight distribution. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Well, I'm 6'3", 240. Six of me in the cockpit would be. . . scary. The truth of the matter is that my boat appeals to my essential introversion. That's why I really prefer sailing single-handed. Two or three others on "Even Chance" and I feel very very crowded!

Enjoying the solitude. . . Brooke

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