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inlandsailor
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Initially Posted - 12/27/2007 : 22:05:53

Hello all- I used to hang out here when I was considering purchasing a C250. My email address changed so I now have a new username (username used to be Baja Man).

I now am a new C22 owner (1990 Wing keel). I would like to add the C250 factory mast raising system to my C22 trailer. My trailer is the factory Trai-Rite trailer. What is the manufacturer for the 250?

The system I am referring to is the one that mounts near bow winch and extends/telescopes up. Anyone have any pics of the system they can send me? I'm in So. Cal and I am hoping to find out who in So. Cal built system. Also, ideas on cost?

BTW - for those that use this system, how effective is it? Would it work as good on a C22? I do use a telescoping mast raiser at transom so mast is already at near 45 degrees when preparing to raise.

I am trying to put a mast raining system together that allows me to raise from ground level and not have to carry around a gin pole or A frame.

Thoughts?

Thanks!

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 12/27/2007 : 22:13:05

The mast raising system on our Road King Trailer consists of a fixed vertical square tube that is attached to the horizontal tow bar and reaches to just above the pulpit. There is a roller near the top facing aft.
The winch is attached to the beam that also supports the bow rollers.

The thing that makes it possible to raise the mast using the winch secured via the roller to the spare jib halyard is the installation of baby stays that reach from the midships lifeline stanchion up to the mast about 7' from the foot of the mast.

I would think you would have no trouble making up a set of baby stays.

Paul

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 12/27/2007 : 23:24:36

Inlandsailor,
I've got a C-22 also. I know of one C-22 owner who added a 2nd winch to his trailer on a post/platform that puts the winch just above the bow. He attaches both forward lower shrouds to that winch to raise and lower his mast, no gin pole or a-frame. I have also used the bow winch on my trailer in a like manner, but you need a way to keep the winch strap centered over the bow. For that, I run the winch strap over the mast support I clamp to the bow pulpit for trailering. It's crude, but it works. Also, at the marina, there is frequently someone there who can crank the winch while you walk the mast up or guide it down.

Edited by - dmpilc on 12/27/2007 23:25:12

Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 12/28/2007 : 12:03:47

I have a 2005 C250WB with a Trail-Rite trailer.
I think Trail-Rite is in Santa Ana, CA
You might be able to use a C250 mast-raising system for a C22.

Early C250 models didn't have a trailer-based system so here's a related post for an upgrade --> [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=11841"]Trailer-based mast raising question[/url]
There are pictures and measurement.
Note: the measurements are for a water-ballast model. The winged-keel model would be higher.

Russ C250WB #793

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Turk
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Response Posted - 01/27/2008 : 07:33:16

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by inlandsailor
 

I now am a new C22 owner (1990 Wing keel). I would like to add the C250 factory mast raising system to my C22 trailer. My trailer is the factory Trai-Rite trailer. What is the manufacturer for the 250?

The system I am referring to is the one that mounts near bow winch and extends/telescopes up. Anyone have any pics of the system they can send me? I'm in So. Cal and I am hoping to find out who in So. Cal built system. Also, ideas on cost?

BTW - for those that use this system, how effective is it? Would it work as good on a C22? I do use a telescoping mast raiser at transom so mast is already at near 45 degrees when preparing to raise.

I am trying to put a mast raining system together that allows me to raise from ground level and not have to carry around a gin pole or A frame.

Thoughts?

Thanks!
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I owned a C22 before moving up (was it up?) to a C250. I have the mast raising system on my trailer. Mine is a wing keel so working with raising the mast is always up pretty high - good reason to have a stable system! That said, I'm wondering why you are having so much trouble with the 22. I at first almost lost the mast while me and my wife first put it up and caused me to build a mast raising system to "crank" up the mast. Latter, we just pushed it up and didn't worry about it. It is a light mast and once you get over the fear of "losing" it, it becomes simple to do. It really takes 3 people to do it safely.2 to push, and one to hook up the bow. We normally had plenty of people working on their boats in the spring willing to help.

Now, after saying that, here is the "A frame" design I came up with after searching the internet and taking bits and pieces from others out there. It works very well and is as stable as the c250 system. It is also a lot less work than adding to an existing trailer and telescopes down and breaks apart for storage or transporting. Made from aluminum it is very light. Makes use of your boom blocks for power.

http://www.elmhurstprop.com/mastraise/index.htm

The single gin pole Idea works also, but can't possible be as stable as the "A frame" Also, the uppers and lowers on a c22 do not offer support for the mast until it is fully up. The c250 has "baby stays" that you add for lateral support before you raise the mast. The c22 not having these needs the height of the "A frame" to become stable. Believe me, I tried using a shorter system first. ou could add baby stays, but the stanchion next to the mast is not lined up with the mast and will not offer a good point to connect the baby stays to the deck. You would have to add some through the deck Eyes- something I wouldn't do.

The c250 manual has all the details if you want to pursue this direction, I'm sure you can find it on the internet.

Me, I would just get some beers, call some friends, and just push it up. Takes all of 1 minute.

(I know this post is old, but I thought I would add to it just in case he came back and for informational content.)

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 01/27/2008 : 12:28:33

Edited by - johnsonp on 01/27/2008 12:32:59

Mike013
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Response Posted - 01/29/2008 : 16:08:22

Inlandsailor,

My trailer was built for a 250 by Trail Rite. As you can see by the photos, the telescoping mast is just bolted to the trailer's frame.

The mast includes a ladder and the winch assembly.

You might contact Trail Rite about purchasing the mast assembly and then installing it yourself.

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