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britinusa
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Initially Posted - 01/01/2008 :  16:03:04  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
I know this sounds dumb, but... which way around should the mast light face?

I ask because in prep for our trip this weekend, I was checking the light fixture on the front of the mast. We have the dual lighting fixture, one illuminates the deck and the other .. well that's the question.

The top lamp housing has a reflector, I have never removed it since we bought the boat new. While looking at it to determine how to remove it in case the lamp needed replacement, I noticed that the reflector (silvered side) of the fixture was away from the mast. This would cause the lamp to illuminate the mast itself rather than shine forwards.

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 01/01/2008 :  16:27:28  Show Profile
Paul, the upper light is supposed to be a "steaming light," illuminated when you are under power at night. It should shine towards the bow of the boat.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 01/01/2008 :  17:01:03  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by britinusa</i>
<br />I know this sounds dumb, but... <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Well, Paul... I won't comment on that except to suggest that you pick up a copy of <i>Chapman Piloting</i> and enjoy it. It explains all of this and a lot more that every sailor should know--except maybe the ones on ponds by themselves. I only want to make sure you know what lights to use and when.

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Response Posted - 01/01/2008 :  17:12:44  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
How could a reflector get turned around? Very strange.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 01/01/2008 :  20:08:34  Show Profile
Uh, just make sure the spreaders point towards the aft.

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Response Posted - 01/02/2008 :  06:55:36  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Frank Hopper</i>
<br />How could a reflector get turned around? Very strange.
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Agreed, as it was that way since we got the boat I figured it was normal.

IMHO Asking dumb questions helps reduce ignorance.

Paul

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Response Posted - 01/03/2008 :  13:37:02  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave Bristle</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by britinusa</i>
<br />I know this sounds dumb, but... <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Well, Paul... I won't comment on that except to suggest that you pick up a copy of <i>Chapman Piloting</i> and enjoy it.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I got a copy of this for christmas. it is a lot of reading, but I'm getting comfortable with it... I have been told it is illegal to use the book as moveable ballast while racing.

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Response Posted - 01/03/2008 :  14:30:44  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Prospector</i>

I got a copy of this for christmas. it is a lot of reading, but I'm getting comfortable with it... I have been told it is illegal to use the book as moveable ballast while racing.
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Unless....what if it was a lumpy light air day and you put your two fat guys in the cabin and by chance they happen to read the book while sitting on the high side?

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Response Posted - 01/03/2008 :  15:09:55  Show Profile
Don't you want your fat guys on the low side in light air?

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Response Posted - 01/04/2008 :  07:07:12  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Yes most times, but you want them on top of the keel if it is lumpy and not moving, but the question I posed was in response to movable ballast so for the sake of arguement say the other 4 guys on the crew are already out of the doghouse on on the leeward rail and furthermore they are reading the book down below while roll tacking!

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Ah-hah... the hidden roll-tack!

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Response Posted - 01/04/2008 :  10:20:16  Show Profile
The thought of four-people roll-tacking a C25 brought to mind the picture of a 1930's bobsled team before they instituted weight-limits and invented wind-tunnel designs. I believe the heaviest team won and 4-person teams routinely approached 1300 pounds.

Was the reflector in front of the bulb or behind it? As long as the lens is concave the right way... I need to take apart the light and service it while the mast is down, I'll try to take a picture.

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Response Posted - 01/04/2008 :  11:29:22  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ilnadi</i>
<br />...Was the reflector in front of the bulb or behind it? As long as the lens is concave the right way...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">It's possible that the reflector is supposed to be convex. The steaming light should show across 225 degrees so that with it and the sternlight on (135 degrees), one and only one white light is visible from any direction. (Whenever the white light is visible along with a red or green running light from another boat, under the rules of the road you're a motor vessel.)

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 01/04/2008 :  12:03:49  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
The reflector is curved (so practically Concave) and is part of the glass and yes, it was fwd of the lamp.
I'm guessing the lamp would be correct in either position as the mast would obscure it about the right amount, but it would not 'shine' fwds. Anyway, it is now installed with the reflector aft of the lamp.

Still figuring out how rolling the crew around with book in hand would solve the light mystery

Paul

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 01/04/2008 :  12:54:21  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
What brand deck/steaming light combo is it?


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britinusa
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Response Posted - 01/04/2008 :  16:48:06  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Duane, it's a Forespar fitting. The reflector is a simple piece of silver colored tape adhered to the inside of the glass.

Paul

Edited by - britinusa on 01/04/2008 16:49:06
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