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clayC
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Initially Posted - 01/14/2008 :  13:02:05  Show Profile
I may be to late.
will it kill my batteries to leave them in the boat all winter? It hasn't been to bad so far this year with night time lows being in the teens. I have heard that will ruin batteries but cars seem to fair ok. What are your thoughts? I hate to carry them anywhere if I can avoid it.

Clay C

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 01/14/2008 :  13:30:18  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I believe that once they loose their charge they will freeze.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 01/14/2008 :  14:08:06  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Frank's correct. As the sulphuric acid become less concentrated due to discharge, the battery is [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead-acid_battery#Electrochemistry"]much more likely to freeze[/url]. If the battery has a good charge on it, the acid will be more concentrated and the freezing point of the mixture is lowered. The link above gives a pretty good explanation of what's going on and why.

If you've got a decent charge on the battery and it hasn't been colder than the teens for a short time, you may well be OK. Still probably a good idea to bring the battery into your garage or somewhere warmer than your boat if you don't run a heater in it over the winter.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 01/14/2008 :  14:58:37  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
And check in on your charger too...

I've been worried about our batteries since putting the boat away in the fall. I haven't been able to get a decent charge back into the suckers. This past weekend I dropped something on the charger, and the needle happily bounced up to 100% charge.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 01/14/2008 :  15:05:07  Show Profile
Speaking from experience,(I've spent half a lifetime with batteries in sub-zero temps) it takes a lot to get a battery to freeze.
If your battery freezes - it was most likely already finished as a usefull battery.
That said, you should take it home and at least let it spend the winter in your garage, basement or protected place where it can be kept charged. I keep my boat batteries in an unheated Canadian garage over the winter, where I monitor them and plug them into a trickle charger about once a month. A good, fully charged battery will survive unattended until spring.

I just got back from a vacation - before I left, my car was rear-ended, the trunk was damaged and rendered unable to close, the trunk light was on until it drained the battery. Three weeks after the accident, I got home and the battery was dead. The 4 year old battery in my car was completely drained in sub-zero temps for nearly three weeks. I hooked the battery up to my trusty charger and now it (appears to) work just fine. It takes a lot to freeze a battery.
If your battery was good and fully charged when you left it, it will most likely be okay and require no more than some quality time on a charger.

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clayC
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Response Posted - 01/14/2008 :  16:13:09  Show Profile
Thanks a bunch! Maybe I will move my solar panel out from under the tarp and call it good.

Clay C

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 01/14/2008 :  16:30:14  Show Profile
I think the idea of the solar charger is good. I, for one, am done lugging heavy batteries around.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 01/14/2008 :  17:10:41  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by clayC</i>
<br />Thanks a bunch! Maybe I will move my solar panel out from under the tarp and call it good.

Clay C
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Unless the snow and ice build up on the panel and stays around for a couple of months.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 01/14/2008 :  17:41:26  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
FWIW, I keep my solar panel hooked up nearly 100% of the time which keeps my battery nice & topped off. In the one instance where I've hooked up a charger to the battery, I brought the charger into the boat instead of the battery to the charger. I did enough humping of big batteries when I was in the USN. Of course we don't get the temperature extremes you guys are talking about so I don't have to worry much about the battery freezing.

On another note, I found a nice little analog voltage meter I'm going to be adding next to my breaker panel so I can see at a glance what my battery's at w/o digging out my multimeter. I think it was $11 at my local electronics shop?

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 01/15/2008 :  10:39:22  Show Profile
I agree on the solar charger.
I have a small roll-up panel that keeps my batteries maintained. My next upgrade is a solar panel capable of charging and maintaining my batteries while at anchor and on the mooring ball.

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