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dmpilc
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Initially Posted - 02/05/2008 : 22:18:47

In Nashville, which is normally in the 20's to 40's this time of year, it got up to 64 yesterday and 72 today, and it is currently 74 inside the house. Unfortunately, it's been very wet and we just got through a tornado warning/watch. The storm has passed us for now, with funnel clouds in several places all around our house and traveling fast at about 50 mph. There's another storm line along the Mississippi river heading toward us. Should be here around midnight. The Admiral is having hot flashes, so I've turned on the A/C. I don't think I've ever done that in February before, except when I lived in St. Pete, FL.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/06/2008 : 07:45:58

Up here in Michigan, we had temperatures in the 60's...IN THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY!

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/06/2008 : 10:29:53

If we could capture the energy of hot flashes. we could stop burning fossil fuels.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 02/06/2008 : 18:49:05

This has been a wet winter here. Last weekend I only got out sailing Friday and Saturday. Sunday was too wet. The weekend before I got out but ended wearing foulies.

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Andy_334
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Response Posted - 02/06/2008 : 20:25:45

Now you guys are just rubbing it in. Up here in the frozen tundra of MN we "celebrated" the second largest 24-hour temperature difference last week. 32F at Midnight, -17F by 16:00 the same day!

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 02/06/2008 : 21:29:28

Here in the land of the Chinook (a warm wind that blows over the Rockies and displaces all the cold air) we had a temp of -25C and lower, then today it went to +3C. For you Farenheit guys, that's -30 to + 5.

We've had warm, we've had cold.

The real story though - the lake is frozen and will remain so for several more months.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/06/2008 : 21:53:18

If my my grade school science teacher wasn't an ass I might possibly have taken a little better to the celsius stuff. Conversely, my high school chemistry teacher rocked, so I like the Kelvin thing.

Yesterday we were at 273 Kelvin at 2 in the morning and at about 22 hours later we were at 286 Kelvin (32-56 degrees F) I heard some places reporting as high as 62

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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 02/06/2008 : 23:32:22

Yesterday = Sunday we had a new record high of 83, This morning I had snow on the hood of the car, 23 outside. Racing starts in 3 weeks :)

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 02/07/2008 : 11:10:57

Biggest temp swing I remember was in Northern Alberta. It went from 28 below zero at 7 a.m. to 58 above at 4p.m. We loved those Chinooks!
You could almost see the thermometer rising!

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 02/07/2008 : 12:58:37

Do you guys think the US will adopt Metric or at least us Celsius Temps?
I've noticed on a few US weather forcasts that there was a mix of Celsius and Farenheit.

FWIW: Canada changed to Metric when I was in highschool - 30 years ago. Like many people I resisted it, but gradually came to appreciate the simplicity of it and now find it embarrassing that I resisted at all.
0 is freezing, 100 is boiling. A Meter is (very close to) a yard. 1,000 Meters is a Kilometer. The speed limit on most hiways is 100 KPH. My boat is 8 meters long. Hull speed ~15 KPH. A good wind to sail in is 25-50KPH.
* An hour still has 60 minutes.

** the US dollar is based on the metric system.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/07/2008 : 13:36:19

I love my chauvinistic country. But, alas, we will never be one with the world and embrace the way everybody else weighs and measures. I guess it could be worse, we could be in the land of measuring weight in "Stones" and time in "Fortnights". Right, Paul?

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/07/2008 : 16:13:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by stampeder
 Do you guys think the US will adopt Metric or at least us Celsius Temps?
I've noticed on a few US weather forcasts that there was a mix of Celsius and Farenheit.

FWIW: Canada changed to Metric when I was in highschool - 30 years ago. Like many people I resisted it, but gradually came to appreciate the simplicity of it and now find it embarrassing that I resisted at all.
0 is freezing, 100 is boiling. A Meter is (very close to) a yard. 1,000 Meters is a Kilometer. The speed limit on most hiways is 100 KPH. My boat is 8 meters long. Hull speed ~15 KPH. A good wind to sail in is 25-50KPH.
* An hour still has 60 minutes.

** the US dollar is based on the metric system.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

They tried and failed about the same time Canada converted. About 30 years ago I remember them saying that we needed to learn it because it was the wave of the future. If I recall from that teacher, the metric system is actually based on the speed of light. If I could only recall how that all works - I'm sure one of the star trek engineering types (no offense intended) can explain it.

Both the metric system and the dollar use the decimal system. The dollar has nothing metric about it.

Maybe we should all convert to the binary system....what was that joke - there are 10 types of people in the world, those that know binary and those that don't.....The temperature outside right now is 10000011110 degrees farenheit

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 02/07/2008 : 17:16:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The dollar has nothing metric about it.
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The dollar is metric. Based on 0 and 100, with increments of 1.

Unlike, for example - US hardware. 3/16" VS Metric 10mm

I was at a finance conference in Leesburg VA, and I stated that the US $ is metric....got quite an uproar from the mostly US attendees.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/07/2008 : 17:21:26

I'll agree to disagree - that would be base ten or decimal....Two college math professors for parents.

I'm sure Bristle is already on Wikipedia to dispute me...

Edited by - Champipple on 02/07/2008 17:22:15

Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/07/2008 : 20:18:26

Me??? Dispute???

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 02/07/2008 : 20:25:43

I had a wonderful science teacher in highschool who told us that money was metric. His message was that we already knew and used metric. He more than anything, wanted to throw our preconcieved predjudices back in our faces, and let us know that we had already whole-heartedly accepted the concept of whole numbers based on 0-100.

Money isn't metric, it just happens to use the same concept.

So, how's the sailing weather?

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 02/07/2008 : 21:27:13

I lived in Canada when they started to convert to metric. Miles/kilometers were not too bad (multiply the latter by .6 and you get miles, roughly). When the hospital started using Celsius and told me someone's temp was 40 degrees I had to ask what that was in real measurement! The when they changed barometric pressure to kilopascals I decided it was time to move south...after all, who the hxll knows what a kilopascal is?

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/07/2008 : 21:37:58

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Derek Crawford
 ...who the hxll knows what a kilopascal is?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">All you need to know from a barometer is what direction it's going--thus the adjustable hand.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/08/2008 : 02:06:13

Now that I am back from seeing my first shuttle launch (really cool - tax money well spent), I have to chime in. The only problem with metric is the transition when many people have to convert; converting between systems, even if both are logical, can be confusing. Case in point: -25C to +3C is actually about -13F to 34F. The metric system of length is actually based on the distance between to cities, I don't remember which ones, but they may have both been in France. But the light base is correct now. What with tectonic plates and distances on earth shifting all around, they standardized on the wave length of radiation of some atom (maybe hydrogen) at a specific energy level. ºF is freezing water and ºC is freezing a 50% brine solution.

But just to show popularity usually trumps logic, a scientific nomenclature conference about 40 years ago decided to stop naming units of measure after dead scientists and stick with a logical approach; but psi, grams/sq. centimeter, ºcentigrade, cycles per second still gave way Pascals, Celsius, Kelvins, and Hertz.

And if we didn't have 10 fingers on our 10 hands, we probably would be binary. And lets not get into the base 60 system that gave us angular degrees and time.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 02/08/2008 : 05:25:57

Maybe with increased visibility of metric we will get more use to it (ie. the automobile speedometer has both measurements on it).

I just want to know where this subject is going...So what are we talking about here...a change to the name of this Forum ? So...now what do we call this Forum ? Do we convert the 25 & 250 to metric or do we take that actual waterline measurements and convert them ? So what is the new name of my boat....and will Catalina Direct be selling the new name plates ?

Edited by - OLarryR on 02/08/2008 05:27:13

bear
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Response Posted - 02/08/2008 : 07:15:12

WEBMASTER ???????

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/08/2008 : 09:36:59

In 8th grade I learned to do arithmetic in base-7 and base-11... In college, binary and hexadecimal... Base-10 still gives me trouble.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 02/08/2008 : 10:09:09

The meter was originally defined as 1 ten millionth of the distance from the north pole to the equator on a line through Paris, France.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 02/08/2008 : 10:13:16

Here is why a sailor should like the english units and why they are so handy. Everything can be measured on your body! Yes, thats right. A mile is 1000 steps (left-right-left). An inch is on your thumb knuckle to tip, a foot is on your feet. A yard is middle of chest to outstretched fingers. A fathom is so easy to measure, its just the full reach of your arms. A nautical mile is just one minute of arc on a great circle (all lines of equal longitude are great circles).

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 02/08/2008 : 10:51:56

Speak for yourself, Jim... You apparently have a rather different body from mine!

(Bear: You're supposed to be hibernating for another couple of months.)

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 02/08/2008 10:55:28

Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 02/08/2008 : 14:43:42

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The meter was originally defined as 1 ten millionth of the distance from the north pole to the equator on a line through Paris, France.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

It's from France? If that is the case then I want nothing to do with it!

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