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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  08:01:54  Show Profile
Bluefish are tasty fish?

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  09:34:44  Show Profile
As always, great insights - many thanks for the responses.
I see the point about almost coming to a stop first - sort of bleed of the momentum, then continue coming over. Will give that a shot this weekend!

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  09:44:09  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave Bristle</i>
<br />Bluefish are tasty fish?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Hey, Dave, you have a point. I would really prefer a school of easy-to-catch rainbow trout! Please let me know me when they're running in the Bay!

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  10:40:03  Show Profile
Another reason to go hove to, to clear the rudder of seaweed. With the proliferation of floating seaweed on my end of Lake Erie, heaving to works great to clear a fouled rudder. When hove to, water sort of back flushes one side of the rudder pushing entangled seaweed to the other side of the rudder and finally away from it. I have to do this a few times during an afternoon of sailing and it only takes about a minute, sometimes less.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  16:15:49  Show Profile
OK, now I'm getting envious...a "few times" in an afternoon and I can't get it at all...really makes me wonder what about this maneuver I'm missing...

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/03/2008 :  09:58:07  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dlucier</i>
<br />...When hove to, water sort of back flushes one side of the rudder pushing entangled seaweed to the other side of the rudder and finally away from it. I have to do this a few times during an afternoon of sailing and it only takes about a minute, sometimes less.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Don, you can also just "back up" the boat by going head-to-wind and then pushing the boom out. Leave the headsail luffing and use the rudder to steer straight astern until the seaweed gets washed off--then swing the stern around to put her on the tack you want and away you go. It's an old trick for getting small boats out of irons--especially catamarans.

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Don B
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Response Posted - 09/03/2008 :  13:25:42  Show Profile
A few days ago (8/19) John Russell posted a link to "ppconsultant on youtube"

This video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbjwP6F_N9s

explains how to heave to

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 09/03/2008 :  14:23:48  Show Profile
Which is what started my quest...however, having tried so often, I understand him better. I did observe his jib seems to be a 110%, so next time I'll furl a bit before trying. There is also this link which advises letting the main out...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmPzHsClETY&feature=related...

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 09/03/2008 :  15:49:48  Show Profile
&gt;"I did observe his jib seems to be a 110%, "

Like ordinary sailing, there needs to be a balance between the forces produced by two sails.
Too much jib up for the breeze and the boat will try to turn downwind more than the lashed-over rudder can correct for.

Every beginning sailor should do the exercise of trimming for a neutral rudder (the boat goes straight without attention) then play with Jib and Main trim to steer the boat around.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 09/03/2008 :  18:59:17  Show Profile
Funny you mention learning to play with balance and using sail trim for maintaining a course...we did exactly that for a few hours this weekend, <i><b>LOTS-O-FUN !</b> </i>

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