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listenup
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Initially Posted - 03/17/2008 :  18:19:16  Show Profile  Visit listenup's Homepage
What is s.o.p. for connecting the hose leading from the outboard gas can to the outboard? Anyone cut a portion out of the locker so that the locker lid can be closed or?
Thanks in advance,
Mike

Mike and Barbara
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/17/2008 :  18:32:42  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
My '89 has about a 3" cutout at the bottom of the gas tank locker for the hose to pass through it.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 03/17/2008 :  19:34:41  Show Profile
My 85 does as well...

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/17/2008 :  21:05:00  Show Profile
As does my 83

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/17/2008 :  21:05:34  Show Profile
Sorry, 82

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listenup
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Response Posted - 03/17/2008 :  23:01:42  Show Profile  Visit listenup's Homepage
Thanks for your replies.
Mike

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/18/2008 :  05:21:10  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
I am surprised that Catalina did not provide an exit path for the gas hose from the locker on the '82. It was not the first year the Catalina 25 came out and so thru the years I would have thought if it was an oversight, there would have been an improvement made by '82. There must be some exit plan built into that locker ? What about any Catalina 25 owners prior to '82...what did they do or utilize ?

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quilombo
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Response Posted - 03/18/2008 :  06:00:29  Show Profile
I have a 78, I ran my hose through a passage at the back of the fuel compartment accross to the starboard side, there was room without any cutting

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 03/18/2008 :  08:52:58  Show Profile
Probably not the best way, but I lead mine throught he deck vent. I put auto door trim (black rubber/vinyl) around the vent to reduce potential of cutting/chaffing the line. All that said, I would love to know of a better, safer method for my 1980 boat.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 03/18/2008 :  09:46:09  Show Profile
Peter,
I route my fuel line through my 78 port vent as well. I like being able to disconnect it and bring it back into the compartment when done to reduce UV impact to the hose. The trim sounds like a useful addition. I wonder if you could turn the vent around 180 degrees, like the starboard vent, to eliminate the bend?

Quilombo,
Sounds like your engine is on the starboard side. Once you have the line over to the starboard side, how do you you exit the boat?

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farrison
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Response Posted - 03/18/2008 :  10:44:19  Show Profile
I have an 82' and the fuel locker cover has a 3" long cut out along the bottom edge, towards the aft end of the cover. It appears to be intended as a handhold to open the locker. That is the gap that I run my fuel line through. Since fuel vapors are heavier than air, the design of the locker cover and this cutout would allow any fumes that built up to flow out the bottom, and out the scuppers.

Paul

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/18/2008 :  11:20:20  Show Profile
My fuel line is routed through a thru-hull on the transom that is just above and left of the outboard bracket.



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quilombo
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Response Posted - 03/18/2008 :  16:11:21  Show Profile
Joe, there was a thru hull fitting there, probably from the previous owner, and I also ran all of my engine controls through there as I have a remote operated engine, I also plan on putting another thru hull fitting there for my remote steering

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 03/18/2008 :  20:41:16  Show Profile
Don, I like the idea of using a thru-hull for the gas line -- or electric start/generator cable. How difficult was it to install and what size is needed to handle the various fittings that either the fuel or electrical would require?

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/18/2008 :  21:55:44  Show Profile
The installation was easy, Peter. The previous owner (or someone) did it!

Installing a through hull in this spot appears to be fairly easy. Just drill a hole and install. As to the size, big enough to put a fuel line fitting through.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 03/18/2008 :  22:04:25  Show Profile
Don,

It's interesting that your motor is on the port side. Most others have their outboard on the starboard side.


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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/18/2008 :  22:08:25  Show Profile
Gary,

Most earlier C25's have port mounted outboards. Three of the four C25's in my marina have port mounted outboards.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/18/2008 :  22:23:59  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
My understanding was that the outboard was mounted on the same side as the freshwater tank to avoid extra list.

Grey water & fuel to port while freshwater & outboard counterbalance to starboard. I am not sure if Catalina was consistent with this arrangement. Seems to me I have heard of some boats with freshwater or grey water under the vee berth to provide lift to the stern.

If listing slightly provides extra waterline length then you may have a small advantage on race day - but not enough to count, you will also have the OB closer to the fuel tank, making for shorter runs withthe fuel lines. I can't think of other advantages to mounting the outboard on a different side.

My 1984 has motor mounted on S-board.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/19/2008 :  05:22:37  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Don,

Nice photo of your boat. The trim looks real good from what I can see.

What sailboat is that to your starboard ? An ODay ? From the wide stripes top and bottom and the way the fiberglass is molded at the beginning of the cockpit, it looks like an ODay. But the large port side window does not look like that on ODays that I have seen.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/19/2008 :  08:02:18  Show Profile
Thanks Larry. As to the trim, my boat sits on her lines quite nicely. And yes, that is an O'Day...Good eye!

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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 03/19/2008 :  11:18:28  Show Profile
My motor is on port and the lines led through a thru-hull done by PO. However, since my lake is so small, I have done away with the remote tank and use the internal tank on my 5 HP Merc. I keep two one gallon cans lashed down so my gas gets rotated frequently. Works great. With a full tank and two extra gallons, I can go up and down my little lake more times than I want to.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/19/2008 :  13:40:46  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Prospector</i>
<br />My understanding was that the outboard was mounted on the same side as the freshwater tank to avoid extra list...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">In the beginning, the outboard bracket was on port--the side where the fuel was in the sail locker (dumpster). When Catalina added the cockpit fuel locker (around 1981-2?), it became more difficult to mount the bracket on that side, so they moved it to starboard. Having replaced the bracket on my '85 and also worked on the transom from inside the dumpster, I can definitely see why they did it.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 03/20/2008 :  20:21:11  Show Profile
We've got the motor on the port side and run the fuel line through the vent.

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Phredde
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Response Posted - 03/25/2008 :  20:18:31  Show Profile
The fuel storage locker on my 84 has the gap that most others do, so that is not a problem. But here is my small issue: there is a priming bulb in the fuel line, if I leave the bulb on the cockpit side it generally gets jammed in the scupper hole, blocking the cockpit draining. If I pull the bulb through the scupper hole, it generally hangs into the salty SF bay. Neither one very ideal. I guess I need to either drill a thru-hull hole higher up on the transom, or get a different length line...right?


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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/25/2008 :  20:53:39  Show Profile
A short lead from the tank to the bulb will solve the problem.

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