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BryanR
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Initially Posted - 04/06/2008 : 12:31:16

I have a 1999 WK that I bought over a year ago. We mostly only day sail on Rhode River and Chesapeake Bay. Getting ready to go in a few weeks and I don't know where the sink in the galley drains. Does it drain into the bilge or into a thru hull? Finaly found the water tank fill cap. Any hints on flushing and draing the tank?
Thanks Bryan Robinson

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 04/06/2008 : 15:23:06

There's a thru hull on the starboard side. If ound the flush/fill problem to be a real pain. Without pressurized water, it's just a matter of hand pumping the sinks until the water reaches an acceptable quality or your arm gives out, whichever comes first.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 04/06/2008 : 15:45:20

The tank holds around 13 gallons, and takes about 20 minutes of pumping to drain. If there are two of you, one could pump the galley faucet, while the other pumped the head faucet, and you could be done in around 10 minutes. The head sink drains to the port, and the galley sink to starboard as John said. If you haven't used the tank before, at a minimum I'd run a bleach solution through the system to kill anything that might be growing. You might want to spend the time to open the access hatch in the top of the tank & clean the insides. I've never done this so I can't offer much advice. If you use a 5% solution of bleach and let it sit for at least half an hour, you'll have killed off pretty much anything that might be growing. Make sure to pump the solution through your faucets so the hoses are treated as well. Then you'll need to flush the system with fresh water. I always put a few drops of chlorine into the drinking water to prevent growth.

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BryanR
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Response Posted - 04/06/2008 : 16:05:17

Thanks! The tank was drained when I bought the boat, and I was so busy all Summer that I only got her out seven or eight times for day sails. I hope this year is better and we can go for weekends and anchor out overnight. I'll let you know how it works out.
Bryan

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 04/06/2008 : 16:55:24

Take bottled water, too.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 04/06/2008 : 17:40:28

We use the tank water for washing dishes and hands. Bottled water for drinking. When we filled our tank the first time it seemed to take a lot, duh, because water was flowing out the faucets and onto the floor. Be attentive to the tank. We now look at the water level in the tank while filling because if you put the hose into that fill cap it will put enough pressure in to overfill the tank and send water to the faucets. The fill cap is above the level of both faucets.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 04/06/2008 : 18:07:01

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 We use the tank water for washing dishes and hands. Bottled water for drinking. When we filled our tank the first time it seemed to take a lot, duh, because water was flowing out the faucets and onto the floor. Be attentive to the tank. We now look at the water level in the tank while filling because if you put the hose into that fill cap it will put enough pressure in to overfill the tank and send water to the faucets. The fill cap is above the level of both faucets.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Hmmmmm....

Could you flush the tank with that knowledge?

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 04/06/2008 : 20:08:30

We've never had the problem of the faucets overflowing, but we also replaced them with much nicer solid brass ones after I stupidly broke the one in the galley. We just put the hose nozzle onto the fill pipe & let it run till the relief valve gurgles up with water. Maybe if you made a better seal on the fill valve, you could get flow through both the faucets like Randy mentioned, which could be useful for flushing as John suggested?

We also carry bottled water to drink, but I'm not adverse to drinking the tank water, neither is our hound, but Rita won't unless she has to. Which is why we carry a couple of gallons of bottled water... We'll also fill up a drinking water cooler with ice (free at our marina) and water from the marina's hose (same as is going into the tanks). That's what I generally drink during the day while we're sailing. After drinking Colorado River water for so long in San Diego (too thin to plow, too thick to drink), most any water tastes pretty good to me, especially the water up here in the PNW.

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piseas
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Response Posted - 04/07/2008 : 17:36:06

Bryan, I must have a extra large water tank. The darn think wont empty. Ive had my C250 for over a year and still have never filled her.
But I take bottled water as well wine and beer so I try to get as much liquids as possible, especially for those over niter's.
Steve A

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soulfinger
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Response Posted - 04/07/2008 : 20:17:27

You really shouldn't drink hose water---too much stuff that grows in hoses. You can get hoses rated for drinking water, but I would still be suspect. Much safer with some bottled water or collapsable bladders. It'll probably taste a lot better too.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 04/07/2008 : 23:37:04

We carry four bottles of water from the house to the boat. They were 1/2 gallon / 2 litre polycarbonate juice bottles that came with handles, so I can carry all four at the same time.

We start out filling them with ice, then water. I've tried putting one in the freezer at one point, but the bottle burst in there, so we reckoned as a general rule, that was a bad idea.

The two jugs fit side by side in my small cooler along with a few bottles of, er, essential liquids, and this, plus the ice, keeps everything cool for most of the day.

I cleaned out the 10 gal tank with bleach, then rinsed it with fresh water (my arm got very tired), then ran some white vinegar through.

Cleared that all with hose water too, and got almost all the gunk and algae out, as far as I could tell. This year, I plan to remove the nozzles and try to siphon the water out using a hand pump. If I work it right, I hope to drain it through the thru hull fitting.

We mostly use the tank water for washing dishes & hands.

Way I figure, in a pinch, it wouldn't kill you, but it would be quite rare to need to drink it unless you were marooned somewhere like Gilligan's Island. Maybe the professor could work something out.

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Silar_Phas
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Response Posted - 04/08/2008 : 08:06:13

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Voyager
 I've tried putting one in the freezer at one point, but the bottle burst in there, so we reckoned as a general rule, that was a bad idea.

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Have u tryed to fill them half whit water and put them into the freezer , then complete the filling .

some plastic cant handle cold , but nothing can handle a expanding water to ice , unless it as some place to expand...

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 04/08/2008 : 12:09:12

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Voyager
 .... We start out filling them with ice, then water. I've tried putting one in the freezer at one point, but the bottle burst in there, so we reckoned as a general rule, that was a bad idea......<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">It's actulally a very good idea but you hae to do a couple of things. First, don't fill the bottle completely to allow room for expansion. Second, don't secure the lid tightly. As the water freezes and expands, the air needs to go somewhere so, an open (or, at least loose) cap allows for that. Tighten the cap after removal from the freezer.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 04/08/2008 : 15:56:43

Without going all [url="http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/chemical/waterdens.html#c1"]Bill Nye the Science Guy[/url] on you, water expands around 30% as it freezes, so if you leave your containers a bit less than 2/3 full, you'll leave yourself plenty of headspace for the water to expand into.

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 04/09/2008 : 12:30:52

my two cents: I fill with the tank with a hose until it overflows at the fill opening. Never had a problem with over fill into the sinks. I also installed the "blaster" mod which comes in very handy for draining the tank, along with washing down the deck and cooling off the crew whilc out on the water.

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