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Chris Z
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Initially Posted - 04/08/2008 :  14:57:26  Show Profile  Visit Chris Z's Homepage
I am looking at purchasing either a 150 or a 135 and not sure which I should go with for my needs. I sail on Pymatuning, a large inland lake. However I hope to get some time on lake Erie in a few years. Would I be better off with the larger sail for light conditions or will I even notice that much? I would approciate all views on what would work best.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 04/08/2008 :  15:39:07  Show Profile
My choice was to go with a 135%. I was thinking about a 150% but decided that it would be too much sail for those days on Lake Erie when the wind picked up. Since I think there are more of those days that the light days, I thought I'd be furling the 150% a lot. A furled 150, even when open to 135%, would not have as efficient a shape as a sail designed to 135%. I also singlehand a lot and decided the 150 would be just too much sail for me to handle alone.

The consensus here seems to be that the C250 is a bit more tender in heavier wind than is the C25 so, my reasoning might not apply as directly to you.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/08/2008 :  16:29:21  Show Profile
Chris: Do you have roller furling or hank-on sails? To what degree are you interested in racing (from wanting to win the C-25 Nationals down to the good old "When two boats are on the same body of water...")? A 155 deck-sweeper is almost a requirement in the sail inventory of a racer... For a cruiser/daysailor, in my opinion, a higher-cut 135 is more manageable, comfortable in a wider range of conditions, provides better visibility, and because it will maintain a better shape when rolled down to about 90% in heavy winds, a better choice for a roller furler.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/08/2008 :  16:36:04  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
A 135% is the best all around sail if you usually sail in 10 to 20 knots of wind.

If you usually sail in 5 to 10 knots a 155 is best.

I have 5: 60, 110, 135, 150, 155 plus spinnaker!

Don't worry about being able to handle the 155 single handed, it is really no different. When the boat is heeling too much, reef the main.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/09/2008 :  05:29:35  Show Profile
I'm in the 135 camp. On my end of Lake Erie, where wind is pretty much guaranteed, the 135 is the perfect choice...not too big, not too small.

Besides, you could always add a cruising spinnaker to help you out on those light air days.

Chris,

What size do you have now and how's that working for you?


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Chris Z
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Response Posted - 04/09/2008 :  07:58:24  Show Profile  Visit Chris Z's Homepage
Don,

It is hard to compare the furling one i have now. It has the sumbrella material, stretched and worn way out of shape. I am really thinking maybe the 135 would be best. The current one was measured and seems to be a 140. Also, i think the admiral would like having something more manageable.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/09/2008 :  09:43:47  Show Profile
If you're experience is like mine, you found out that the cost of replacing that sun-strip was almost as much as buying a new sail (but you end up with an old sail). My genny was supposedly a 130--maybe a little more of a discernable size reduction from yours than a 135 would be. The boat will move nicely in light-to-medium conditions even with a 110, but with roller reefing, there's no point in going that small.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 04/09/2008 :  09:57:35  Show Profile
I have Hank-ons. I recently bought a new 110 Full hoist genoa.
If I had roller furling, I'd probably go with a 135.

I also have a 100, storm jib and a 150.

Because our lakes here are fairly long and narrow, I have to tack quite often, so my reasoning was less stress on the rig and ease of use and better control on the extremely windy days and for those late afternoons here when we get sudden extreme wind events.
I tend to use the 110 in spring and fall when its windier, and use the 150 during the summer months.

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