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jesse camp
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Initially Posted - 04/09/2008 : 10:30:19

Hello 25 Fans,
Has anyone found a source for the replacement of the fixed (Lexan)?
windows in the salon of the 25 for the 86-90 Catalina 25.
These are the ones that are sealed and held in by screws not the aluminum framed windows. I guess I could pull them off a take to a glass store. All comments welcome.

Jesse Camp Sea Trekker 1987 SR SK 5550
Orlando, Fl

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/09/2008 : 10:57:01

What timing you have !

I just received my fixed port-side forward main cabin window from Catalina Yachts (also the sealant). (We had a posting thread on this perhaps 2 weeks or so ago either in this Section or the General Forum. i would check that out because I posted the Catalina Yacht installation Dwgs in that thread.) They wanted me to make a pattern/template which I did by attaching 3 - 8 1/2x11 sheets together and then taping it to the outer window area. Then traced it with a pen, cut it out at home and mailed it to their Parts Dept. Once they received the pattern, Chris in Parts, called for the charge card info. The window cost ~ $37 and the sealant was ~ $10. the window received is to the exact dimensions of my pattern and has same beveled edge as the original window.

By the way, the story with the screw holes - They do not provide screw holes because...they are not needed. Apparently, when Catalina went to the frameless window, The Acrylic with screw holes and sealant to install it, experience indicated that sometimes the screws would result in a stress fracture to the Acrylic. The sealant bonded so well that it was determined the screws were not needed. Some '89s do not have the screw holes. I was told to just use the sealant for the bonding of this new window.

Right now, i plan to use some sealant on the hairline crack of my exisiting window and then later in the season or end of it, then tackle the replacement project.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/09/2008 : 11:09:52

Jesse,

I just checked and the posting I was referring to was down below during the period 3/20 - 3/23, 2008. It was about Window/Portlight Replacement. Here is the link to the info Catalina Yachts Technical Department (Kent) forwarded to me. He said it would be applicable to my boat as well. He indicated that the dwgs indicate a jig used to apply pressure to the window but he was not aware of the installers using it. He suspects it was used on smaller boats that had some curvature and so then the jig would be beneficial for assuring a good bond all-around the window. Looking at the jig - something similar to it is not a bad thing to ensure pressure is applied to the window. Either that or hold the window for awhile while the sealant sets.

http://catalina25.homestead.com/WindowReplacement.html

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/09/2008 : 11:29:03

Hmmm. I wonder if they'd make windows for my C&C. I have a couple that need to be replaced, and that price, including the special glue, sounds very reasonable. I think I'll call and ask them.

I've been told that one way to hold the new window in place until the glue sets is to figure out a way to spring about a 1" X 8" board over the window. The board is flexible enough so that it will bend to conform to the shape of the window structure. You might be able to spring it against the genoa track or perhaps against the base of the lifeline stanchions.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/09/2008 : 18:12:00

In the link I provided, they used a board notched length-wise and that side fit against the the toe rail. The board then supports weights which provide the force against the window until the sealant cures.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 04/10/2008 : 07:45:39

Although I'm notorious for underestimating the cost of things I can't help but think this could be done for less cash at a local glass shop

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/10/2008 : 08:18:15

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DaveR
 Although I'm notorious for underestimating the cost of things I can't help but think this could be done for less cash at a local glass shop
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Possibly, but Catalina would probably provide a little nicer finishing work around the perimeter of the window. A couple of years ago, I priced replacement windows for my C&C. Compared to the price that I was quoted for C&C windows, the Catalina price is very reasonable. When I got a quote on C&C windows, the company wanted $50. just for the glue.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/10/2008 : 12:18:47

Not sure what the local places would charge but my thought is that without removing the window (first), going with Catalina Yachts should ensure the correct matl, tint, etc is ordered. But if you have the window out, then nothing like bringing in the original to a local place and seeing what they can do for you.

By the way, the sealant probably could be ordered elsehwere as well. But I did not know what was the exact sealant to use. Once again, Catalina Yachts knows exactly what is used. Acheck on the Catalina Direct website indicates Catalina Direct was selling window sealant for $2 more than Catalina Yachts. So...figure that one out....I would think a dealer would charge more same as what usually is the case for cars. But...now that you know from the Catalina Drawing what the correct sealant is to use, you could always check other places and see if it can be gotten for less than $10.

The shipping charge from Catalina Yachts for the window and sealant was about $11.

Another way to look at this is....if the local place is 10 miles or so away, roundtrip being 20 miles. This is about $3.40 or so for a gallon of gas to get there and then to again to go back to pick it up.....$6.80. Plus you have to spenfd the time doing it. I just did this thru EMails and a phone call for the charge card...and then get a rebate on my card purchase. In the scheme of things, the cost is the least of the issues for this purchase. It really boils down to getting the right matl and will the replacement fit properly during install and will it look the same as the others ? I probably will not do this job till much later or at end of this season...so won't know the answer to that most important question for awhile.

Edited by - OLarryR on 04/10/2008 12:20:22

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