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Dustysailz
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Initially Posted - 04/19/2008 : 21:33:58

Well I've got it figured out now. Can't wait for the season to begin now. When shes launched and underway, I'll post a new photo with the foot loose main purchased late in the season last year. It was the best $800 or so that I hav spent on her-besides the new bottom that is. Good luck and great sailing this year folks.

Samuel Jennings, "Ode To Joy", '84 Std. Rig, fin keel, #4503

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 04/20/2008 : 12:06:11

I look forward to hearing about your Loose Footed Main. I will probably replace my main next year and will be looking for comparisons.

Does the new sail mean you are going to change the name of your boat?

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Dustysailz
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Response Posted - 04/20/2008 : 19:49:03

Stampeder, search in the postings for a "day on the Bay". At least thats what I recall it being named. It was one of the best days last season and was with the new sail. I would advise going for it, it was a big improvement to mine. Mine came with a draft stripe, 2 reef points and cunningham and 2 full battens and two half battens.

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Dustysailz
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Response Posted - 04/20/2008 : 19:51:55

heres a photo of the new sail

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/20/2008 : 22:22:38

Interesting thing noted at the C-22 Region 3 Championships in Chattanooga this past weekend. Only 3 boats, mine and 2 others out of 29 total, had loose-footed mains, while almost everyone in our local fleet uses them. Most were Waters Sails (and Joe Waters was there, taught a start tactics clinic session Friday afternoon as well as a lot of one-on-one time), some were Gus Sails, and we saw several with Bartlett sails.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/21/2008 : 05:20:22

I have some photos of my new main sail - not the greatest photos but the Quantum Main Sail is a loose-foot with one full batten and the others are not but are quite a bit longer than the stock battens. Also have a Quantum 150 furling Rig Genoa but no photos.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 04/21/2008 : 10:27:38

Larry, that's a nice looking sail, but I have one question - what do you do if one of the slugs breaks?

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/21/2008 : 10:41:07

If one of the slugs breaks ? Godd question ! I guess I put my old Main Sail back on ! LOL

Actually, i have to look it over more carefully but i believe that the slugs on my old sail have a screw fastener that first attaches to the sail. So, i have to check and see if one of those fasteners would fit onto the webbing and then attach the slug to that. If that does not work, then I will call Quantum and find out what they do since it has got to be a common issue and I am sure they have something that will fit - It would be removing totally the plastic slug and then attaching the fastener in the webbing then attach the slug to it. I'll first check this out myself by removing one of the old screw fasteners off the old Main sail. I'll report back on that.

But not right now - It's raining cats and dogs out there. I have checked the docks outside my office to see if the water was going to come over the land bulkhead - pretty close but high tide has come and gone. The water level in the river was at one pijt within 4" of the top ! A few years ago, it did go over the edge and at that time we were located in the 1st floor. Most got out of work a week until they figured out what to do - they relocated us to other floors and then ripped up the carpeting and removed first 3' of drywall. Now we are permanently located on the 4th floor.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 04/21/2008 : 11:09:21

I'm not a big fan of plastic slugs. I've been replacing mine as they break, with HD Wire slugs. They're expensive but I haven't had one break yet.
I'm very suprised to see Quantum use sewn in plastic...but I suppose they have a strategy for replacing them when necesary.

Sorry about the rain but I can't feel much sympathy at the moment - we just rec'd a couple of legendary dumps of snow and the temps have been mid-winter like.

Last weekend it was summer-like and I was thinking of working on the boat, this week I'm wondering if the tarps on the boat are strong enough to hold that much snow.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/21/2008 : 11:30:09

Mike,

I called Quantum and here is the answer I received regarding the slugs. Apparently West Marine has shackles (or what I am aware of is the screw fasteners used on my old main sail) that can be used to attach another plastic slug. Then when I get around to it (I guess for most people it would be at end of the season), the sail is brought into them and they will redo the webbing with a new slug. Their thinking is that the plastic slugs are usually not a problem for many years but then as they age/get affected by UV/weather elements they then will sometimes break and that's when they usually need to redo the webbing. Their thinking is that this happens like 10 years from now. My thinking is that it can happen sooner.

I like your idea of using wired slugs.
In any case, good point ! I had thought about the slug issue before but then forgot about it until you raised the question. I will try to remember to take one off my old sail and see if it is feasible to put that on in case one slug happened to break. I may also stop at West Marine - Good excuse to take a look at all their stuff again...and check out their slug stuff.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 04/21/2008 : 13:13:44

Frankly I don't get the concern. I had plastic slugs on my original stock sail. They were still good when I sold the sail after 16 years. North put plastic ones on my new sail. I expect them to be there long after I sell the boat...........god forbid.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 04/21/2008 : 13:40:57

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Frankly I don't get the concern<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Consider yourself lucky.
Our marina has run out of those plastic slugs on occasion over the years , they are common to most sailboats in the 17-27' range. This tells me at least, that I'm not the only guy breaking them.
I have yet to break one of the HD wire slugs.

I've noticed that the problem originates when raising the sail - and , most often when raising after having reefed. The plastic slugs tend to get somewhat skewed in the mast slot. The HD wire slugs are less likely to get skewed, along with being a better suited material.
When we're racing, we are trying to do things in a hurry and are a lot less carefull about slug positioning than when we're raising sails to go cruising.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 04/21/2008 : 13:43:20

Ditto, Al. My jeep and Miata both have delrin (plastic) bushings in the suspension, my Harkin blocks run on plastic bearings. Get what makes you happy, but I've never had problems with plastic slugs.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 04/21/2008 : 18:14:42

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Does the new sail mean you are going to change the name of your boat?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
DUHHHHH

Just figured out that Dustysailz is not the name of your boat.

Does your new sail come with the plastic slugs?

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Jefffriday
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Response Posted - 04/21/2008 : 19:00:02

I would beware of the plastic slugs, last season I had 5 go, like a zipper, not great. They were old and had seen their share of UV, but I still have reservations. I am still going to look for a better alternative (wire?)

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 04/21/2008 : 20:05:45

The all plastic slugs have been breaking on me, whereas the ones that have 'wire' or stainless steel components have held together and actually slide better in the mast slot.
I've used both of these with excellent results.

I got mine from Pride Marine in Toronto.
http://www.pridemarine.com/index.cfm?category=10007%7C10619

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/21/2008 : 21:54:04

The one in the lower picture appears to offer the advantage of protecting the webbing from possibly chafing on the mast slot edge.

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Dustysailz
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Response Posted - 04/23/2008 : 20:11:02

mine has plastic slugs with webbing as shown in the photo above. they are very sturdy (the old one had plastic slugs also and in the 7 years ive owned the boat, neither of them broke). so i dont anticipate a problem. the sail has just been wonderful, it was the shot in the transom the lady needed and i suspect the conventional boom vang helped some too!

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